I have never played "Mario 3DS land". Neither have you. No game of that title exists.

It isn't about Shame...

"Just like sexism or jingoism, games are free to intentionally embrace them, and there are people who will find those aspects of a game appealing. I would just characterize them as things I would personally discourage and hope that developers wouldn't embrace."

SHAME ON YOU! Seriously, comparing this tongue in cheek…

The problem is you are coming across as very egotistic. You are saying "I don't like this thus it must be bad."
Not everyone likes durian fruit. It smells horribly. The texture is like custard... I could go on. Some people love it. Some people don't mind the smell and love the texture. Not everyone likes sushi. I…

And people disliking something doesn't mean that thing is bad or needs to be changed. I don't particularly care for a lot of things, but if enough people like it I just take it that it was made for other people in mind.

If other people are saying that it adds to the experience for them and makes the series better, then it does just that. You almost come across as if you think you understand how much they like the game better than you do. If the feeling of elitism is part of what makes the game good for them, so be it. The shaming…

I don't think people are arguing for the word gamer to include only the elite, simply that the word be more selective than 'anyone who's played any game, ever'. I mean, if the definition becomes inclusive enough to include anyone who's so much played a single game of candyland, then that makes pretty much everyone a…

I don't want to associatte with someone as abrasive in their opinions as you; from now on I will not refer to myself as a gamer simply to put some distance between your agressive "I'm right, you're wrong" attitude and myself.

Not all gamers treat being 'mocked' by a video game as something so negative. There are those of us who laugh at it and see it as an incentive to play better. If you take what a video game thinks of you that seriously, there are plenty of games that will never call you anything but great or fantastic.

It's a video game, not a real person. Do you seriously take it personally if a video game 'talks down to you'? I guess I just haven't considered it until now that there would actually be people whose feelings could be hurt by a video game.

Arrogant. That's the perfect word for Shin Megami Tensei I was looking for.

>negative effect to the player

Tell me, have you ever played an SMT game or is this simply an intellectual exercise for you?

Actually, you're completely wrong.

No, you're missing the point. It's not about difficulty levels. The way the game treats the player in the case of SMT, or, for example, new Ninja Gaiden (pre 3) is integral to her experience with it. It's not just an inert menu option to make the game harder, an option which most players avoid anyway - even on the…

This isn't as cut and dry as most people on this thread seem to imply. I went through this while learning to play the guitar. When I started, I couldn't play a damn thing, there is no way I could call myself a guitarist, I couldn't play guitar. There was no magical line that I crossed when I started referring to my…

Consistently being the keyword. If you do something consistently for your own pleasure then it could be considered a hobby no? Playing FB games because youre bored at work, not quite so.

Because SMT has always been for crazy people in the way that Touhou's hardest difficulty is for crazy people.

Shhhhhhh trust me, it's a complete waste of time debating/arguing with this one. He will drag the conversation into insult filled ad hominem and never concedes to anyone's opinions but his own. He'll keep claiming his opinions are indisputable facts but in much more crass terms. Just let it go friend.

"If you play game, you're a gamer, period."