This comment tells me you haven’t driven a recent Maxima.

I’ve not driven those two cars back to back, but if you’re saying the 458 felt faster, that’s the one I’d DD (if I weren’t 6'7"). I’m a fast car slow guy, perhaps by the necessity of my size, but I do really enjoy a car that feels fast, and are a bit freaked out by cars that don’t even when they are. The fact that…

One speaks to engine and transmission tuning, the other is how a car feels when accelerating. Slow car fast vs fast car slow. You’ve never been in a slow car that feels fast or a fast car that feels like it’s doing 60 when it’s going 110? I’m talking about experience vs ecu mapping, in not being pedantic at all.

You were the first to bring up “throttle response”, I was talking about “response to throttle” input. There is a difference there.

In this metaphor I’m a Unitarian Universalist.

Why would you not include those two recreational drugs?

Having that massive diff in the back does in fact assist in 1st gear. It’s the shortest 1st gear I’ve ever had in a vehicle. You can’t feather the throttle lightly enough in 1st gear going 5 MPH to not throw everyone’s head back. And yes, it’s a lot to do with engine and transmission tuning. I think it’s the main…

Yeah, and good luck finding a 6.2 with the color and options you want. I help friends car shop a lot and I’ve been amazed at just how hard it is to get a 6.2 with what you want on it.

Throttle response does not equal 0-60 acceleration. Also, GM and Ford’s offerings are only faster to 60 if you select the 6.2 V8 for GM or the 3.5 EcoBoost for the Ford. A majority sold are slower than the Tundra. I drove them all within a day of each other, I know of what I speak.

Well Tundras outrank Camaros by a long shot in depreciation every single year. In fact, only Wrangler and Tacoma outrank it. My truck had an MSRP of 44K, was a dealer demo and was only 3 months off the truck when I got it. Can’t really compare the two scenarios.

As a ‘15 Tundra owner I get this a lot. All it takes to end the discussion is just hand someone the keys and let them take it for a spin. Feels like a truck, which some people like and some people don’t. The 4.33 rear end and the engine out of a Land Cruiser make for a very response to the throttle compared to…

The ones we get are a modified version, safe for Americans.

I bet people with snowmobiles are really miffed at Florida too! 

You do care. Which is why you responded. And I didn’t jump “in here at the end for no reason.” There was a very specific reason, which was to let you know you had done poorly here. 

Oh the idiotic out lash of 7 consecutive defensive posts really punctuates this sad display of internet commenting. None of what you did here was good or defensible, I want to be sure you know that.

uh yeah, a little too goo

Yeah, let’s be sure to go with that rather than pretend the Boomer generation didn’t fuck this country into the ground, that’s a good plan.

If another 9/11 happened I’d be fucking pissed our lawmakers didn’t make room for organizations like the NSA, CIA and FBI to do their jobs, and that those organizations didn’t use the resources they had to protect us.

I guess in this case you are saying the “older generation” is all generations that came before the current one that’s your age. In this conversation, I think it’s it’s pretty obvious that the older generation is the generation (Baby Boomers in this case) that are in the process of handing the reigns off to the younger…

Uhhh, so is that why every time I was in a meeting with a 60-year-old trucking exec they bemoaned all of those things as the downfall of the industry?