Rava seems like a pretty good parent. 

“Evil” is probably excessive. But he’s a bad person. His friendship with the guy who fixed the World Series is supposed to demonstrate that. As Succession also shows, being sympathetic is not inconsistent with being a bad person. 

When I think of Tom and Logan, I think of Baron Harkonnen saying, after he killed Dr. Yueh, that he never trusts a traitor, even one he made himself…

Yup. He was a criminal too. He just was self-made, so was less repulsive than Daisy and Tom. To American eyes at least. 

I mean, I think the irony is camaraderie and love could have worked if they’d applied it. Tom is disloyal because Shiv has so strongly messaged that he isn’t loved. They don’t even account for their mother in their plan. 

I would say, at this stage, Kendall has despaired of any chance of being “good.” What he desperately wants is to feel like a person - to not be alone. That’s why even being with his horrible, stunted siblings revitalizes him. It’ll be interesting to see whether watching his father turn on all of them will raise him up…

Based on their previous conversation, Logan’s going to get Peter a title and/or ministerial position in the UK government. Planting the seeds last episode!

The thing is, I don’t think Kendall actually wants to destroy his dad by any means necessary. He’s stated what he wants in numerous ways. He wants to be the clear heir. He wants to force his dad to say he’s the heir. He wants to be seen as good and to win in a very specific way and only that way. And confessing won’t…

I think we’re also seeing that Shiv’s incompetence has a specific flavor. She tends to take people for granted - assuming they will support/obey her while offering no support in return. Eg The plan assumed Tom would be with her. They never secured their mother’s support. Etc.

Logan vs his Kids’ evil is essentially Gatsby vs Daisy and Tom, yes? Do you prefer your evil self-made or do you hate the vapid, destructive children of privilege more?

 But I think, to me, the point is that Logan won against the other two either way. If Roman sides with him, he gets to show that Roman will betray and hurt them (and he’s free to betray Roman at his own leisure). If Roman doesn’t side with him, he gets to hurt them by pretending that Roman siding with them hurt Roman.…

I mean, did Logan really care about getting Roman in this side? He had already won. If Roman chooses him, he just refuses to give him the position Roman betrayed his siblings for. If Roman doesn’t choose him, he gets to pretend Roman is not getting the position but would have if he’d betrayed his siblings. It’s not…

I mean the whole, “trying to get the younger mistress pregnant, while pushing aside your three disappointing children, especially your second son who feels entitled to your crown,” seems like a pretty obvious nod to Lion in Winter.  Not that it makes the story “bad” but this isn’t just “basic story concept.”  It’s…

This seems like a very strange read on the episode. Did Shiv and Roman really throw their lot in with Kendall? Wasn’t it more like they dragged a Kendall who was utterly uninterested in doing anything into their own scheme by offering the tiny scraps of kindness and affection and not-aloneness he’s desperate for?

I heard all this stuff about how Cyborg’s story was so meaningful and the heart of the story in the new cut. And it was definitely better than the non-story in the Whedon one, but it was seriously a “I’m mad at my dad because he didn’t come to my football games and it killed my mom,” story.

You may understand innuendo broadly but you don’t necessarily understand it in every situation. I remember being 15 and realizing days later that a boy was trying to ask me to a dance. He wasn’t being thaaat subtle, but it still went over my head. That’s why teens are vulnerable. They know some things but not…

Who cares? It’s an 8 movie-series. They started the movies years before the last book came out. They had no idea whether it would have a “satisfying ending” when they began.

Ah yes. The evergreen “I meant to do that,” snivel.

Yeah, I think it’s obvious that Roman was abused as a child and it’s equally obvious that all the Roys were too in various ways. They were spoiled, abused, and neglected by turns. That is part of the story of how they each became a different version of a vapid, vicious, and destructive human.

It’s the sending it to a woman Logan does not see as a valid object of sexual attraction that’s the problem. Roman could send dick picks to hot girls all day. That matches Logan’s idea of being a real man. Sending one to Geri does not.