It was so sad. I read this one super long breakdown article (that I’m still trying to find again) that about had me in tears for the poor negotiators. It’s a really rough spot right now.

Well said!

*facepalm* I was pointing out that if I followed your logic I could have to conclude that, sweetie. I was pointing out how your logic is flawed and your reaosning poor. Congrats on taking me totally seriously when we’re supposed to know you’re “joking” upthread despite my constantly pointing out I’m not actually…

Thanks for telling us, that’s a good phrase.

A lot of them don’t. I tend to belive most people are good at heart so I think most of them, even some of the people I’m arguing with upthread, genuinely think they’re doing a good and right thing but that doesn’t actually mean they’re doing a good and right thing. A lot of people want to weigh in on every issue but…

Well given I’m used to seeing “antizionist” in the hands of the alt-right I guess Linda Sarsour is actually an alt-right extremist, by your logic. Go figure, I never would have thought that about her but following your logic she must be since the main people I see using that word and calling Jews “zionist” as a bad…

Well yeah, we spread news in the form of memes now after all!

That’s one instance, yes. She did it knowing it would get attention and get picked up and run as a soundbite by the rightwing, and that the corrections would only be run by the left wing, outside rightwing echo chambers. All she did was a give a soundbite to Islamaphobes, which was bad.

Yep.

Because we inist on making them all-encompassing heroes who know all instead of “person who is good on this issue listen to them regarding this specific thing.”

I like “Likkudenites” since it both incorporates their main party’s name and sounds kinda like “luddite”.

Well put.

Since someone can’t play nice I’ll be dismissing them from here on out. Tsk tsk.

There are groups for peace on both sides, sadly it feels like we just have to keep hoping and praying both get into power sooner rather than later. Fingers crossed that the corruption scandal Bibi’s fallen into will hurt the hawkish wing in Israel and we can get some cooler heads in charge on that side.

It’s actually a classic form of antisemitism on the left. As soon as they find out you’re Jewish, you are t be interrogated on your stances on Israel and often pressured to disavow it in as many ways as possible before you can be “trusted.” Ir’s annoying. I know some people doing it genuinely think they’re coming from…

Excellent point. I do think Israeli leadership needs to get wise that their current strategy is not doing anyone any favors and come up with something better for everyone.

Well bless your heart. If you can’t tell them apart maybe you should wait until you can. Cause comparing Jews to white supremacists is pretty much peak antisemitism.

It does partly happen because some antisemite have found out they’ll get a pass if they hide behind being “anti-zionist.” Also some people who are trying to merely be “antizionist” don’t really care for nuance and just start acting antisemitic.

If only internet commentators were capable of nuance as well...

No, they tried to explain that there are varying interpretations of Zionism within the Jewish faith and is getting mocked for it. Thank you for your misinterpretation.