Reading Ann Coulter's twitter. You cannot be too depressed. On a night like this.

In fact, that's no wonder that men should try to disculp Noah out of a sense of misguided solidarity and discomfort. Most of them, who I assume are decent people, probably have more misplaced guilt than impudence when it comes to examine such matters. Hence the denial. Or perhaps it's just me being optimistic. But…

Fair enough, sorry.

That just proves the psychology in this show is stupid. And the characters as well. I want to reread the Oranges of Blood by John Hawkes now.

You just said that rape doesn't necessarily imply protestations on the victim's part, and I'm with you on that. Stick to that argument. As for Black Mask, can't he just be polite and let that unpleasant moment, i.e. the wake-up blowjob, pass?

People call rape the 20-minutes scene in Irréversible or what occurs in Tess by Thomas Hardy.

I also thought that Black Mask's argument that Noah fingering her was a hint at his altruism or even consensual sex was more jokey than serious. I mean, it's a ridiculous argument if taken seriously.

In fact, I agree with you but let's not be too simplistic about it. As I said, what I see first and foremost in that scene is just a cheap attempt at manipulating the audience on the writer's part. The rest is just trivial.

They are both dumb in different manners. Loved the dialogue in the previous episode between Robert and Allison when he tells her he had an affair:
- How did you and Yvonne meet?
- She was my wife's friend.
- Oh.
- Yeah. It caused something of a scandal, to put it mildly.
- What… did you have an affair?
- We did.
- Ah.
-[laughi…

"whatever you consider normal and fine it's your business", so you shouldn't indulge in such crude generalizations about men. It is not because they have a protruding pudendum that they, or at least some of them, don't understand what rape is. And besides, you dishonestly veered off the point made by Black Mask, which…

Yeah, there sure is no problem with Cole, the sympathetic and reformed drug dealer.

All good points. I don't want to be impolitely dismissive of the show, I look at it with some curiosity but that is not at all my cup of tea. Psychologically, it is too damn obvious, as you've just proved it and in spite of the POV-shifts. I want humans or characters who do not do or act accordingly to what one…

A pleasant surprise or a pain in the neck, that just depends on the mood you are in.

Hate how the show toys with that ambiguity and hopes to fuck with our minds over that. It feels so cheap.
It was more rapey anyway than the scene in Louie last year that elicited the same kind of comments for no reason at all since it was just awkward and there was just no sex at all.

Sorry to be blunt, but this review makes it obvious how simple-minded the show has been.

which would be?

Sure, as I said it was exaggerated and, I admit now, hardly appropriate, she co-owns a beautiful house in front of the beach (with 1000 feet of beach front actually) in a now gentrified area with an ex-drug dealer, who also used to run a big ranch - and I forgot the hippie mother. They don't live in a trailer (uh, in…

It is quite clear from what we have seen that she becomes a woman of means, who dresses accordingly and has achieved some sort of upper class status. A long way from her white thrash history (sorry for using that derogatory category but it is convenient enough though exaggerated).

obliviously stupid yeah.

those are supposed to be written words. I agree with you that most writers, even the supposedly good ones, are horrible when it comes to describing sex though. Most of the time, they should abstain.
There is no doubt, even before that episode, that Noah's novel was a piece of trash. They should have left it at that.