Between the stupid racing seats, hacked up interior and gauges, and questionable looking work under the hood, it’s a big no dice. I love the concept, but it’s poorly executed.

GR86, even with no discount. 7500 RPM RWD sports car for under $30k? Sign me up!

Or electric.  Abomination both. 

I don’t care what anybody says, these still look good. I just can just never own one because I would be stereotyped to hell lol.

Yeah I personally never warmed up to the Ghibli (haven’t driven this final V8 version yet) but this seems like a pretty damn good deal on a car like this.

Not for the Japanese made variants. The North American made Camry's are what saw the worst of the cost cutting. My Dad has a clean 2000 XLE made in Japan that has pretty much the same interior as a Lexus ES300 of the same period, but I'd argue better.

Accords are massively better to drive. But if it’s a V6 make sure it’s a stick, the automatics of this era were awful. And of course, good luck finding a decent unmolested one at this point.

This generation was the beginning of the bean-counters war over the Camry. The cost-cutting was evident in the build quality, especially when compared to the previous generation.

My daily driver is a 2+2 RWD coupe that’s under 3000 lbs. It’s comfortable, engaging to drive, and I’m able to do all the maintenance myself. Until there’s something comparable out there, I’m frankly not interested in a BEV. I don’t need 500 miles of range or a 3-second 0-60: 250 miles and 5 seconds, respectively,…

It amazes me that most people aren’t questioning the technology more when jumping into the deep end headfirst on EVs.

EVs as they are right now are just a big dumb compromise.

I’m not oblivious to the fact that ICEs aren’t perfect, and we probably won’t know the extent of their negative impact on the environment for…

While far better than their designs over the last decade, yeah, it still has bad proportions and creases in all the wrong places.

I heard the Hurricane won’t fit into the wrangler engine bay and that they’re developing a smaller version for the wrangler.  Don’t know how much of that is true.

Indeed. A naturally aspirated version of the F160 V6 Maserati uses in the Ghibli could have been an enticing option (and still differentiated it from the Maserati and the Q).

Same. Thats one thing I don’t like about the lineup, it goes from mild to hot with no in-between. A V6 with 350-375 hp between the standard car and Q would have been great.

I like the new DRL design from the refresh much better than the current design (even if it doesn’t align perfectly with the shape of the overall headlamp housing):

Friend got one a couple years ago - CPO with all wheel drive and performance package that includes the limited slip diff. Paid around $26K for it (good luck finding that price now) with around 20K on the odo. He got a MOPAR extended warrantee for up to 100K and has been loving it since. If you buy right, like you…

I’d go for the Giulia, especially the four leaves. It’s performance would blow the Golf R out of the water. But if you want a lease special or used leased special thats fun to drive and cheap, you cant go wrong with a Giulia.

Reliability is way better but the maintenance costs are steep. I would estimate on par with or slightly more than the Germans.

The secret with this one is to buy it off lease with like 20k miles for less than $30k though. You get pretty much the same thing you are in now.

S38 is right, the W116 did not have power seats, though the 6.9 had the option of a power rear seat. This was like the power rear seat on the W126, the base slides, which changes the angle of the back some.