Your first quote doesn't matter, it refers to a different comment than what I was referencing. At least, I'm not mindlessly insulting a product with no reason why I don't want it other than I don't want it. If you don't want it do buy it.

My point still stands that it is part of the console. If every console comes…

You should calm down. I'm sorry if I've offended you, but seriously stop acting like a 12 year old. Maybe I should have reworded my comment, but you don't have the right to speak for 2/3 of 360 users. Like I said, I don't have a Kinect, I do have a 360. You are trying to speak for me, you are wrong in that regard. I…

Here's the thing though, what gives you the right to "speak for many"? If they want to say something they are fully able to, or they choose not to. Stick to speaking for yourself. You actually didn't give really any reason as to why it's shitty, you just say its shitty, like its fact, when really it's your opinion.…

I don't see the point of complaining though. I don't see why you are so against it, rather than just saying "OMG ITS SHIT I DONT WANT IT TAKE IT AWAY." Just quietly go buy a PS4 instead.

I doubt it, other situations prevent people from buying things.

If the kinect is your deal breaker, then by all means skip the console.

EDIT: I guess that means about 95% of the people with tvs think gaming sucks with that logic.

1) Some might never use a wifi connection. 2) It still drives the price up.

Your opinion, i think its an awesome piece of tech and can't wait to mess around with it.

That's why the Witcher 2, which had no DRM was pirated more times than it was sold. Face it people just want free stuff.

I own one, it will not last 80 hours of constant use. It's got a long battery life, but not that long.

Of constant use? Yeah no it doesn't.

Damn right you are entitled to spend your money somewhere else, and damn right you are allowed to call them out of what you feel is wrong. I'm simply offering my counter argument to that.

I don't feel what MS does is wrong, and I don't feel what EA does is wrong. Servers on the scale of MS's and EA's are not cheap to…

No, EA has every right to use their own servers. It's not their fuck-up and even if they had to use MS servers they would have to pay MS. Besides EA didn't start online passes and weren't the only ones to use them.

If we really want to go into detail here lets put it this way because everyone loves to use used cars as…

EA runs their own servers, they still have tons of customer service, as well as patches to fix bugs, etc. XBL $5 monthly is so their customer service, server costs, and what not.

As someone who has a Windows 8 computer, I highly recommend you make your own decision. I have W8 and wouldn't look back for a second.

You don't get free games, you subscribe to play games. Big difference, people seem to ignore that.

I own one because its the only console this generation to try something new. I'm also stoked for all the party games like SSB, Mario Party, Mario Kart, etc etc.

She is captured in all of those games, the fact is half of them came out after super princess peach came out. So 13 isn't an accurate number. It's a stupid oversight.

The thing that worries me about Sony is their past actions. They have a disc technology that will lock a disk to a single console, they've just kept it quiet lately, they have had major PSn problems in the past, but people just forget about that. The literally yanked the Linux OS out of the PS3, which was a major…