Maybe now that you have a stadium sitting around doing nothing you can get yourself a MLS franchise.

Not really. In fact I would say he didn’t hold him so much as ride him to the ground as the end lost his balance.

So you’re saying all those democratically elected governments in the 50's and 60's that were overthrown by strongmen were just figments of those countries imagination?

Actually, I don’t believe conservatives are loyal to the U.S. at all. They put their race, religion and state ahead of the country as a whole time after time.

And this means what? Nothing. In the end he was a traitor who helped kills thousands of American soldiers in the cause of states rights; states rights to keep people in chattel slavery.

Sure, but Lee fought against his own nation in service of slavery.

Are you talking about those Dems who went on to leave the party in the 50's and 60's during the Southern strategy and joined the GOP and pushed out the Rockefeller Republicans? You can say “them dems” all you want but todays GOP is “them dems” in both history and soul.

Lee could have taken up leadership with America and not with traitors. He put slavery ahead of America.

If you want to get the Trumpkins to understand that Lee is POS you should frame your argument around the many thousands of American soldiers who died at his hands because we all know Trumpkins worship our military and maybe just maybe they can connect the dots that way at least.

There is no honor in having a hand in the killing of thousands of American soldiers.

He is by many Trumpkins.

The day Lee caused Americans to be killed by traitors he lost any pretense of respectability and gained any all all condemnation anyone cares to heap on him.

Lee didn’t do the right thing. The right thing would have been to lead American forces to victory over traitors to the country. Yet assholes like you think Lee was some paragon of virtue while running around screaming Benghazi and email.

No, they didn’t leave the country, they attempted to and got a foot up their asses for it.

Southerners then and now frame their failed war against America as being about states rights and then get quiet and stare at their feet while pretending anyone with half a brain realizes the states rights they wanted was to own and maim and murder other human beings.

The English do celebrate the 4th of July; they call it “The day we got the fucking Americans out of our country!”

Unless you’re English you don’t really have much of a leg to stand on when you bring up that line of reason.

Lee gave up any right to being called a great American when he took up arms against America and killed Americans.

Which means he’s done more in the last 50 years for this country and Americans than you and all your family have ever or will do. So if Lewis is a phony what does that make you and your family past and future?