Not even just the tape but her stories and evidence dont hold up to scrutiny. I think the tapes lost her credibility to reasonable people because it exposes her as a liar. Now her stories are increasingly bizarre and dramatic as Depp makes his way refuting what shes already said. Lies to cover up lies. Now shes saying…

Yes abuse IS typically hidden, she previously said his employees stood by and did nothing as he abused her. 

Hearing their voices in these recordings and how much Amber used toxic reasoning and abusive language was enough to change my perspective on her. I don’t have any reason to trust what she says is true after hearing those recordings. The way she was speaking to Johnny reminded me of the way the worst men I’ve dated…

Yeah, those tapes were awful. She was gaslighting him six ways to Tuesday. “I didn’t punch you, Johnny, I hit you. You’re such a baby.”

+1 for teaching me a new word, DARVO.

It’s kinda fucked up that he has evidence and multiple witnesses that he was an abuse victim and she has none, yet the best people can do is “Well they’re both probably abusers”, even with Heard on tape saying this was what she was planning to do to him.

none of them are going to come out of this trial looking good but lets remember that she stole her ex-assistants sexual abuse story and used it as her own: https://variety.com/2020/film/global/amber-heard-johnny-depp-assistant-sexual-violence-survivor-1234707688/#:~:text=Kate%20James%2C%20Amber%20Heard’s,publisher%20of…

Whataboutism means that i am saying a bad thing is okay, because another person did a bad thing...

That’s not whataboutism. Explain why a 21 year gap between a man and woman is bad but a 32 year gap between two women isn’t. Is it because women are automatically at a mental disadvantage when opposite men?

“20-year age gap relationships that allow older men to prey on younger vulnerable women”

Its not whataboutism when the article points out one relationship as depressing, while the headline is about somebody who has a much larger age gap in their relationship. Cherry picking is the opposite of whataboutism.

Zach Braff is 21 years older than Florence Pugh

I, too, am bothered by people being potentially happy with one another when I desire them all to be miserable.

Lying is now rape. I think this can be good. Does this now change the stance on Zoe Quinn?

In 2020, not sure that’s possible unless you don’t want to know someone is married. Especially since we are expected to believe she bought the ring for conservative parents line.

If they are at the same level probably not.

Fascinating. Thinking about the consent issue in the bachelor producer and his wife. Clearly that’s a case where she raped him to have another child.

Yikes

Wildly we can’t talk about this because then we have to acknowledge ALL those who do that.

If you have HIV and don’t tell me, then you have forced a disease onto me. You would get charged because of that component, not the sex component because we consented to having sex.