You didn’t write a thesis on shit, you condescending asshole, but it wouldn’t mean shit if you had, because you’re making a common mistake. I never claimed that FGM had religious roots, but to separate the practice of FGM from the stated beliefs of those that still perform it is ridiculous. Of course it’s a result of…

I never claimed its roots are religious, but it’s perpetuated by religious nonsense, just as many Christians use their religious beliefs to perpetuate misogyny. Trying to separate beliefs from the actions is futile.

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I don’t think there is anything here we disagree on.

No, it’s not hard to say. Trying to boil ‘religious beliefs’ down to what is explicitly in scripture is a pointless exercise as that is not how religious belief works, and scripture is obvious nonsense.

You might think you’re serious, but you’re not serious. That is a completely unserious position you’re taking.

Religion has a lot to do with the control of women’s bodies.

I never said anything about it being ‘scriptural.’

The motivation and the actual procedure being done is really crucial here

1. No one said there aren’t different procedures.

Okay.

Because of the actual effects of the two different procedures. This isn’t complicated. Yes, all instances of FGM don’t remove the clitoris or sew the vagina shut, but many do. My life, and the lives of most men who are circumcised, are not impacted in nearly the same way. The motivation behind each aren’t the same,…

There is a clear equivocation there. Ending one is a much larger moral imperative.

As a circumcised male who wouldn’t circumcise my sons, yes, I think it matters a great deal which is worse.

Yes, sorry, my response is more in response to the other poster pretending it has nothing to do with religion.

No, it’s actually much, much worse for women.

A percentage?! You mean a huge majority? Yes, of course.

Nothing to do with religion? Get fucking serious, please. My god.

Well if America got its ass out of the Middle East, we could likely end all this FGM in Indonesia!

I think it’s stupid to believe that Cam ‘quit,’ as well, but it was a really boneheaded football play. It looked bad in slow motion, but even in real time, I was screaming at the TV, because it clearly looked liked he backed up when he had a real shot at getting it, and I wasn’t even rooting for the Panthers. The play…