i just wanna go back to precendented times.

Yep. The Republican Party has the mentality of losers.

I long for the day when 24 hours passes without hearing about EM or DJT.

These guys are just trolling. Laugh and dismiss that shit. Like you would if your whacked-out uncle showed up with that crap in your Facebook feed.

Think longer term.

A billionaire demanding a $55 billion bonus after firing tens of thousands of workers as his company crashes and burns is the probably most American thing I’ve ever read. Someone needs to write a poem about this, put it to music, and it should become our new National Anthem.

The biggest reduction of $5,500 is on the Flash extended-range model, which now starts at $67,995, the automaker said.

Yeap. Story as old as time. If you go back to the “golden Age” of piracy, Spain was shipping so much silver and Gold out of Mexico, that the loss of a few ships to pirates was not even in the noise level of the amount of money coming in.

For one model year they will then they will jack up the price and make fancy luxury packages practically mandatory add ons and make them crazy expensive.

Did they remember the price has to be small too?

A reasonable market price for this is around $18K. It’s condition might get it to $20K. $24K is way beyond what this can bring. There are too many available to be able to sell this at the mileage for this price. ND

Wait a minute, weren’t you high throughout high school? That’s important to your story!

I gave you a star. Not because I agree with you, but because you’ve taken what will probably be the only rational NP statement for today. 

It’s a crappy Pinto. Regarding the updates, all I see is lipstick on a pig.  ND all day.

This is subjective of course, but when you combine the quality of vehicles and the size of the company, it is easy to argue that Toyota knows what it is doing more than anyone else. (VW and Stellantis larger, but come on...quality?). Yet, when Toyota says this exact thing about hybrids, everyone is like ‘Toytoa…

EVS ARE THE WORST THING TO EVER HAPPEN TO THE ENTIRE WOLRD OMG IM GONNA SHID MY PAND IF PEOPLE DONT STOP BUYING THEM

We can’t consume our way out of a problem. Modern hybrids are cleaner and more efficient than they’ve ever been, and are a perfectly acceptable stopgap while the EV infrastructure improves and prices come down, which is when you’ll start to see mass adoption. 

I’m perfectly setup for having an EV. I don’t do that many long trips anymore and I have a garage with a TON of available power from a HVAC system upgrade that left me with an unused 40A 220V breaker.

First Gear: I don’t know about anyone else, but for me it’s the math. I’ve run all the figures and based on my average driving, I would be paying significantly more to have an EV that’s a similar size and capability of my current ICE. I could probably get it closer cost wise, but why should I pay more for less? 

Americans who have made the shift to electric vehicles so far tend to be richer, younger and more likely to live in urban areas than the average person, research shows. Many reported being motivated by environmental concerns, and some by interest in the latest, cutting-edge technology.