C- is way generous. This episode was shite. Just bloody awful. Murphy had an end point in mind I think, the COMING OUT (get it? huh? do you?) of the witches, but took a really circuitous way to get there.

Well . . . after her talking about Prince it kinda tails off.

Second coming of Robeson, I dunno, but it is nearly criminal the way he's been typecast.

Too busy with voice-over work, or else he read the script and said, "You all know I've done this role about a billion times, right?" and threw it at his agent and manager.

I would like to call it such, it was damn well annoying enough, but they used it to as a trigger to show Nan's emerging powers, so it was justified. Surely there was a better way, no?

While I don't think she's trying to be intimidating she is the weakest link,

She'll return when they need her, but basically she's fulfilled her role already as the person who brings Fiona and Marie together.

This was certainly what is perfect about the series and what is gratingly bad, all in this one episode. We get to watch some of the greatest talents having fun with DYNASTY like dialogue and get the bends from the jarring tonal shifts, "twists," and unsolved mysteries. I don't know which will win in the end, the joy…

I find this rather sad, actually.

Yeah, but you know, his reading of the South Park Kanye's motivations are a bit unfair to Matt and Trey in that maybe (for those who find them "humanizing" West) their Yesus is just simply in love with his wife.

Does it really matter if the person is a celebrity or not? A personal attack is a personal attack. And you're arguing against something I haven't said, and in fact said the opposite.Never said you couldn't make fun of her. There's a difference between making fun of their vapidness and calling names.

I started with their first animation short and watched pretty religiously until a year or so post TEAM AMERICA. I think they were more personal and direct with Kardashian. Even the Streisand bit, that she seemed really hurt by, was silly, and the Lopez parody was more like their attacks on Kanye.

In the end, both he and his wife/fiancee/whatever were held up for ridicule. I found it unnecessarily mean spirited and quite personal, though one would think that by now if anyone can take it/not give a damn, it would be those two.

Well there I think you've missed a couple of things. They don't really have to "explicitly build up" White male patriarchy for it to be a theme. It would be clumsy, rather, for something to go wrong and then Fiona shakes her fists at the sky screaming, "Damn patriarchy!"

Well, no, they wouldn't *have* to introduce a specific oppressor in the show . . . we kind of get who *they* are (It's the White male patriarchy for those playing at home). Writing 101 says we shouldn't have to rely on the audience's knowledge, but well somethings are just obvious.

I heard it!

That would be nice. They can start with me.

Todd is right, this season is pretty bad television. I think he's onto something with the concept that the showrunners intend for this underlying theme to be about how all these groups undercut each other with internecine squabbles rather than directing their energies at the actual oppressors (though you could make…

Nothing much to comment here, really, I think ZH makes too much of the happenings.

You make some good points, but as evinced the constant harping over season 2, people have little patience for such things that take time away from zombie kills and mayhem.