Well stop it, let’s make a super secret plan to buy them all up ourselves, new friend.

Sorry to break it to you, but they are just gonna unsnap all your hard work in the sequel. 

Just for me personally, as the haver of one small child, with another on the way, the CTS-V (especially the unobtanium manual wagon) is on my short list of must have cars for dads.

But I respect his wish to experience a real sports car too, I got my 3 years of owning a C7 in before my son was born and it was truly…

+1 although that might be overkill. A regular C7 or a grandsport would be plenty sufficient. 

It’s not more seats than he needs, it’s more seats than he wants (he has 3 small kids) but it is NOT a sports car. It’s a huge and heavy executive sedan. It’s great at what it does but it is not a sports car by any definition. 

I LOVE the CTS-v but in no world is it a “Sports Car”. It’s huge and heavy and sort of practical in 4/5 door configurations. Having said that, could it scratch an itch, while becoming his new daily driver? Yes, yes it could.

An Elise is not a “weapon” unless you are talking about a pure track car. I wouldn’t buy one for any other reason, they are a miserable car to live with and pretty slow in a straight line. 

Just an FYI, a buddy of mine has had nothing but problems with his GT350, and I don’t mean minor issues, he is on his 3rd engine in less than 9000 miles among a host of other issues. Maybe his car is a lemon, but from what I’ve heard, the engine replacements are a common enough issue that I would look elsewhere, if…

Yep, if you aren’t exploiting the system, the system is exploiting you. 

It kind of depends on your other financial circumstances. There are rates close to 0% that are worth considering keeping long term if they allow you to keep cash invested elsewhere.

The rate on our car was 2.34% and at the time, you could earn more than that with an Ally CD so it was a no brainier to keep that money in…

Agree, I took out a 66 month loan on my Golf R because the interest rate was only 2.34% up to that amount. I could have paid cash, but it makes more sense to keep that money invested. 

I don’t think the reason for the degradation in the Tesla’s numbers have to do with battery charge, I think they have to do with heat mitigation right? I don’t think the drop in performance would be as noticeable if they hadn’t done 15 consecutive pulls.

But you have a Tesla, so, you could go gather this data for us... …

It’s tragic, it just looks so boring from the front now. I think they tried to hard to smush all the features down low, there is just too much blank space above the grill/lights

Yep, this guy gets it. I am not 100% sure if that is why though, my Honda Element is definitely not sporty, and it gets the same 2+2 configuration despite being a full on SUV. You would think it might be because of the trick folding seats, but no, overseas Elements got a 5th seatbelt in the back.

I think you might be on the wrong site bub. 

Um, okay. I need a 5 seat-belt CTR, but thanks for playing.

Did these ever get a 5th seatbelt? I don’t need two hondas that only have 4 seatbelts...

I can live with the looks from the front, but the back is just sooo busy, it triggers my OCD a little bit. 

He must be going for “blackout” because he is on a roll. 

I will be interested to see it. A quick google only came up with one platform that featured a transverse I6. If Mazda can pull it off, it will certainly be novel. 

Dammit, you are probably right.