manwithonechopstick
ManWithOneChopstick
manwithonechopstick

That’s the problem, I’m not arguing we SHOULD have the EC, I’m simply pointing out the HamNo’s description is misleading. I don’t care about the EC, but I want the system we have accurately described while we have it!

Yeah, and where do we have a system exactly as the HamNo’s of the country are describing? THE OTHER SIDE OF THE SAME FUCKING BUILDING!

No. Not necessarily, but I don’t think they are entirely unconnected.

“Like, say, you produce a large proportion of GDP, and you want to consolidate that economic power with legislative power, but you have fewer citizens. Like, say, if you have lots of people but you don’t consider them people.”

“If everything was proportional to population, all people have equal voice, regardless of what state they live in.”

Understood. Out of 538 EC votes, 435 are alloted based on population. I would quantify that as “largely based on population.”

I grant you both: the electoral college does marginally favor the power of individual voters in small states and the system you describe would be a more theoretically fair structure.

(Genuinely appreciate the conversation, btw)

I was going to warn you not to read the replies, but I see I’m too late. Thanks for the reassurance I’m not taking crazy pills.

“Yes equal representation to every state, but not to the citizens of those states. This only makes sense if you have few people but want to wield more power.”

Part 1: “There is no reason why every state should have equal representation in the Senate. Rhode Island should not have the same senatorial power as California.”

You’re not wrong about the house, but I would argue their use of the filibuster in the Senate has been much more destructive to our democracy.

Apparently, many commenters have made that same choice... I thought this was basic level understanding of our system of government...

The answer to the first part of your post... is the second part of it.

Yeah, I don’t think these are in anyway comparable.

Counterpoint: yes, the electoral college IS “largely based on population” exactly as I mentioned in my post.

“we base those electoral college votes on states, rather than on population”

I feel like there’s some symbolism here, but I can’t think of it off the top of my head...

This deserves so many more stars.

I did not, although it’s difficult for me to think/care less about the university than I already do... but (sincerely) thanks for informing me!