You are kind of a person who shops for cars based on the price vs value of things that don’t matter. I on the other side prefer to shop base don smiles per gallon. A simple stick is cheap, but it gives way to things like LSD and high end Michelin tires.

You do realize one doesn’t just simply enter a conversation and sound smart without understanding the context? I welcome you to read a bit more about what we are talking about before you begin acting all smart here.

You are also welcome to complain here in comments about the lack of legroom and lack of included free check in bags once you are done with your trip.

Ok, let’s just ignore everything completely. Here is the “proper” recommended set up. The larger your C pillars are the more space behind the car becomes blind spots... you can’t shoulder check in that area, and you can’t view that area in the mirrors either. Perfect for a bike or a pedestrian to slip in.

What statistics are you talking about? Can you show at least one bit of legitimate statistics that links drivers with mirrors adjusted not to the NHTSA standard that happen to cause more crashes?

This is the “right” way.... how are you planing to cover the blind spots in it? With the wrong way I can certainly do a shoulder check to cover whatever is not in the mirrors... what about the right one?

In the “wrong way”, I can cover the blid spots with my shoulder checks. In the “right” way I can’t cover those spots with anything and have to ASSUME there is no motorcycle, etc. I didn’t like the “right” way because it was relying on assumptions...

People don’t just emergency brake... if you are not looking at least a few cars ahead, you are not practicing situational awareness. if the car is too large and you can’t see , leave space... come on, enough of this bs already.

There are blind spots, perfect for motorcycles in the “right” way that so many here are advocating for.

Because fat C pillars and small rear view window... there is absolutely no way to have continuous coverage without seeing rear of the car in side mirrors in many modern vehicles.

I don’t advocate for not using mirrors. I advocate for using all means of seeing better. Just saying that there is many ways to adjust your mirrors that they are useful.

I agree- and that’s why you should adjust your vehicle to whatever suits you best to be as safe of a driver as possible.

You don’t tell a guitarist how to hold his guitar... there might be a way they teach that “might” work best, but every professional in the end adjusts his instruments for himself. Same here.

Ok :)

Potentially. That’s what works for you and if it does, that’s amazing! That’s what I am saying exactly. Use the tools available to maximize your awareness of the situation on the road.

I always do the same. They compliment each other.

I doubt shoulder check was the cause. They could have been looking in the rear view mirror with the same outcome. Lack of driving skills and attention was the issue.

I am all for both. I am just saying keep your mirrors how you like them, no need to fall for “this is the best setup” bullshit :)

That’s why I adjust mirrors to compensate for the specifics of every car, not how NHTSA recommends :) That’s the whole point I am bringing up. 

I tried. That’s how I was taught by my driving teacher. Then I readjusted to my liking.