That’s a wrong way to drive a manual. The person you are describing is not operating the vehicle correctly, what does this technique have to do with engine braking? They will do the same next time they downshift AFTER they slowed down with brakes with similar wear on the clutch even though THEY DID NOT engine brake.…

That’s OK to believe in self invented statistics and assume you will save on clutch jobs(you wouldn’t, I am telling you right now :)). I can rev match well enough for my passengers not to notice a gear change aside from the sound of the vehicle and so can any decent manual driver.

You are wrong, slippage is there if you don’t rev match. Once you slow down with brakes, you still have to shift down a gear or two. That would mean one shift if engine braking or one shift after, either way there is one shift, so clutch wear is the same with or without engine braking, but brakes wear less, fuel…

My bad, misunderstood what you meant. Also, you are right, not on the street as to do a good heel-toe with minimal RPM difference is hard without applying brakes firmly.

He doesn’t know the reasons why you should use engine braking, and now you also don’t know because he taught you that way. Time to educate yourself in this thread and make sure your kids do know and use the technique.

ABS on ice are the worst thing ever. I always downshift. It’s an AWD with manual. Handles like a beast in lower gear. I also disable ABS in the snow because it does more bad then good.

Yes! I have a manual AWD car and it’s a monster in the icy conditions when engine braking. Then One day I had an RWD and did the same, and then I saw my ass kicking out. That was rather fun experience and a lesson of what not to do in RWD in icy conditions :)

Or better, do it correctly by rev-matching and save your brakes and clutch.

In RWD vehicle engine braking got me in troubles on ice once. I don’t do it any more, but in FWD and AWD  I still do, and it seems to give smoother more precise control to the vehicle on slippery surfaces.

There certainly is. In my 50/50 AWD vehicle there certainly is. Brakes are biased, AWD is always 50/50 in my car.

Well downshifting without rev-match is a misuse of  a clutch. It’s not a proper operation and regardless if you engine brake or not it will not last as long as it could otherwise.

Coasting in neutral is the worst you can do on a long descent.

Neither. Clutch would last regardless if you rev-match. TOB will outlast the clutch unless it’s defective. But brake discs and pads job would run you a good $500 with labor. You can also ruin your brakes in one go if you decent on a long hill on brakes alone. A single brake pad imprint means your disks are due for a…

You should consider learning how clutch works and how to engine break properly before “debunking the myths” online. What you said is only true when you downshift without rev-matching, in which case your are doing it wrong.

It’s you O, in reality, it’s not wearing the clutch noticeably and significantly saves on gas and brakes and improves safety since your engine is in power range and connected to the wheels. Your brakes are fully ready and not heated up if the hill is long. Ever had brake pads overheat? It sucks, let alone that it…

That’s what people who don’t know how to properly downshift say. Also who don’t know what exactly puts wear on your clutch and transmission. In other words it’s wrong, because on a long hill you will be replacing your pads and disks that would cost you a few hundred bucks at least($500 for most, or $2200 on my car)…

Much better than using your brakes actually... if you do it right.

I had one as a rental for a couple days. I loved it. I felt like a soccer mom, but I seriously loved the dynamics of a sedan with spaciousness of a minivan.

“The styling. This is far and away the prettiest car ever parked at my house.” 

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