Yeah, the new Z is even pretty meh. I’d much rather have a Prelude and I don’t even know the specs on it yet.

Maybe Honda can tell Nissan how to program a CVT so it doesn’t suck, and I guess Honda gets some bargain basement models to sell to the poors.

It’s fine but it really needs a back window instead of the giant dead space not having one leaves.

Yeah, all that plastic trim stuff fades and looks awful after a while.

A lot of the current SUVs are like this, they just take the already giant Sedan grille and stretch it vertically and it looks huge and awful.

Well, they’re distinctively ugly anyway.

I’m fine with that as the charging station situation is still BS. I won’t go EV until I can pull into any gas station, whip out my debit card, and charge my car app free, and it’s going to take a while to get to that point.

As an owner of one of these Honda CVT cars, they really aren’t bad and feel almost like a normal car. Way better than the rubber bandy Nissan CVTs. I just hope this has a bit more power than the Accord Hybrid which has 200, which isn’t bad, but I’d like a bit more in this.

Actually the performance and range isn’t even that bad. Too bad it looks like a cheap cordless gaming mouse.

God, why is he still a thing.

Yeah, but that’s on a huge ship with multiple bars, restaurants, shows, and lots of other stuff to do. This is like being cooped up in an airplane.  Rip out half the seats and add a bar and some tables and this might be ok.  As is, meh.

How many children per mile does it eat?

They tried lowering the speed limits everywhere here in Portland to reduce accidents and now it takes forever to get anywhere and it didn’t even help as last year 69 people died, the highest level in decades.

Maybe they should rethink the business model of selling 50k plus SUVs to people who can’t even afford rent.

I find a business model of “we take 10x longer to get you there” questionable.

Target market: “I really want a Taurus SHO, but I wish there was an uglier version”.

I really want to like the 500e, but the mediocre range and performance kill it for me. I don’t need it to to be a 500 hp 60k fire breathing beast, but it’s specs need be better than they are for the compromises it makes.

These are the kind of EVs we need, not that CyberGarbage crap.

“won’t be ready until at least 2029, after Trump’s second term ends.”

It’s nice, but 300k+ with Mercedes repair costs? Pass...