haha, yeah. I guess my point was they are a bit polarizing. I love mine, but you don’t really know for sure until you have one.

Pick up a manual JL Wrangler Unlimited Sport S.

It’s fun and engaging, spacious-ish and not nice enough that you won’t abuse it a bit, and kids love em’... and after a year, when you get tired of it, you can sell it for 90% of it’s MSRP.

I swear to god, my mom drove this van when I was growing up in the late 80's... teal and wood interior and all.  Awesome.

While I agree, these are white throwback alloys... and I want them for my Jeep.

Real Jeeps always look good on steel.

+1 on VJ

Max, this is not actually a complete sentence:

CP. Take a look at comps on the market.
Low mileage is less impactful than age on these it seems when it comes to depreciation.

Real Question:

Did the switch to mid engine and auto reduce the Vette’s penchant for ‘Big Dumb Fun’?  Like, did it get too serious?

It always boggles my mind when I get incredulous looks for stating that the good old SV650 makes plenty of power.

It really does though.

These things used to haul balls if you’ve got 15 or so knots of wind minimum, flat water and a friendly beach... Yeah, it’s a narrow window for optimum performance.  Neat boats if you could get them to fly, otherwise they were just a slug.

I can get behind this.

Yeah, no. When these bikes can rip one of the Miles at 100 in the turns, you can sign me up as a fan... right now that looks like really slow speedway at best.

I love that people (and pros!) are looking to electric for competition, but lets not overstate the quality of the racing itself when what’s still lacking…

I can get behind the turbofan wheels, but the rest?  I don’t see it, but eye of the beholder and all that...

I don’t care what anyone says, I think slammed Siennas look particularly awesome.

We shall yell at the clouds in solidarity.

Spare is mounted back there, it ain’t swinging up.

Well, kinda... yeah. Unless you have some motivating reason to ride in an urban environment, like filtering, urban riders are indeed just leaving the fold. Older street riders are aging out in general as well, while new riders are indeed not interested in competing with distracted drivers, lack disposable income,…

Aside from an uptick in the GROM class of bikes, ridership is down even in small displacement.  This is the particular part of the market that I work in actually, so I’m hands on with it daily and understand it intrinsically.

However, if we as an industry manage to recover, it’ll be in small displacement where the…

This is a HUGE factor when it comes to why we don’t have new riders.

A HUGE and generally unacknowledged factor by MIC... which is a massive problem for the US powersports industry.

Respectfully I disagree. The report is largely a marketing buoy by MIC that cherry picks information to portray a false positive narrative.

There simply are not more motorcyclists on the road. Not only are new riders not buying new, but the volume of new street riders in the market is substantially lower than any time…