I am both repulsed by and obsessed with this show. I WAS Celeste in a past life. My ex was a wealthy, affable dude. People thought he loved me and it was all romance. Instead, he repeatedly threw me into our bureau, he raped me, and he locked up my passport so I couldn’t return to my home country without his…

congratulations to Sonja for being cast in a role that is not “tough as nails lady cop who is trying to make it in a mans world”

Sad considering the episode last night with the therapist where she says people will say exactly that. “She’s a beautiful lawyer. This would never happen!” When in reality this happens to women with and without power, education, or beauty every day.

This is why it sucks even more when there are children involved. Having heard some really violent fights at home it pisses me off when outsiders looking in think: ‘oh look, such a happy, successful, affluent family. Such a good example in our community.’

Totally agree. I will say though, this show has helped my mom understand why I stayed in an abusive relationship for as long as I did and how my PTSD from being raped affects me. So while the coverage of the show can be gross, the show’s portrayal itself is good.

I think the show did portray him as a rapist/abuser — it’s these media outlets and/or viewers who don’t want to put two and two together.

Oh agreed. But the whole lo fi handy person bit has been fetish-fied and then absorbed into this sort of worship of the good old days, which were actually oppressive and cruel to a great many people.

You just described my husband, my dad, and a lot of the men I know.

Except they (the little guys) also voted for a guy who famously screws over (unpaid contractors) and cons (trump university) the little guys just because he made a bunch of promises he made no attempt to support. Shockingly he’s now screwing over the little guys. In the end they voted for a racist who has historically…

We do understand it. Rather than trying to understand the complicated global systems that control the ebb and flow of labor, recognize that their current livelihoods are a natural progression of the global marketplace, and come up with a solution that takes into account both the sadness and inevitability of such a…

Not JUST yuppies, either.

Of course race factors into it. These people are mad because they’re being treated like Black people and they expect better because they’re white and this is a white man’s country.

The people you are talking about are concerned about their future economic situation. But people of color and immigrants are literally concerned about their lives. You are asking us to have sympathy for people who were so worried about having a certain economic livelihood that they threw those whose lives are in…

We need a word that is to racist as manslaughter is to murder. Like FINE you didn’t mean to, but you’re still facing the consequences. I’m tired of playing semantics games with willfully ignorant blowhards.

You mistake understanding for excusing. I understand their choice all too well. They were fed a fantasy where being a mediocre white man meant having a middle-class life with minimal effort regardless of education because the all boys club was in effect. To them, those were the days when America was great. Now,…

Oh oh they just wanted to keep their livelihoods?! They’ll do anything to put food on the table? Really? Why don’t they just work harder and pull themselves up by their bootstraps then? No one owes them anything right? That’s what they tell all the other colors of poors! The hypocrisy is astonishing. Guess it’s easier…

The whole “racism isn’t a deal breaker” crowd extends way beyond Trump voters, too.

there are probably 2 others. 1.) Rich people who vote based on Taxes. Would look the other way with Anne 2.) Really dumb, uneducated people. Honestly these don’t stand a chance, and it’s really the Dems fault for not doing a better job explaining policy.

She sued Howard University for discriminating against her for not awarding her a scholarship (or something) because she was white, so she sure knows how to play both sides against the middle.

it’s a cliche but white folks have historically (and repeatedly) asked minority groups to patiently explain our humanity to them as if they brand new.