“Obama has said in the past God has spoken to him.”

I totally remember that time where Obama was like “and God said to me take this baby and raise it as my own!” and then he holds up a baby and all the crowd roars and then the baby speaks and it sounds like James Earl Jones.

 She’s already clean. It’s been made clear her child will never be returned. This is some war criminal shit

“Doesn’t deserve?”

We want another child, and adoption is a pretty expensive & cumbersome procedure. I never considered I could simply go shopping among the hopeless. Good gawd.

Cite please. Because I’ve never seen a single reference to Obama saying such a Baptist bullshit altar call thing as “God spoke to me” and I can’t find it through Google. He’s talked about how God speaks to us through Scripture, about having humility not to assume God speaks only to us and not others, but he’s never…

Unfortunately I don’t have those numbers, neither for Brazil, where I work, nor for the US. But I can give an educated guess, by experience: it’s low, I won’t deny that. Problem is, it’s worthy a try. And while you, as a citizen, can make such moral judgements, I, and this officer, as State agents, should not be…

Thank you. I’m also a recovering addict, actually still struggling, but this attitude that addicts are irredeemable and should relinquish all parental rights is dangerous, stigmatizing and discouraged people from seeking help.

Asshole, I’m a recovered opioid addict. I slept on the streets of San Francisco as a junkie. I got medically assisted detox. I make a decent living and my child is happy and educated. Come at me again, go ahead. My veins may be collapsed but my ardor is not.

I call bullshit. You don’t know shit about addiction, especially opiate addiction, on the potency level of injectibles. If you did you wouldn’t be making these comments.

Exactly. That’s the point I was trying to make. I mean we don’t know if the cop said give me your baby or I will arrest you or what. The whole thing just makes me uncomfortable.

Exactly. At the very least, this should not be presented as a beautiful, uplifting story. This was a sad story of a baby losing her mother and a young woman coerced into giving away her baby at her weakest moment by someone who should have helped her.

and you’re a heartless or ignorant bastard...

Just because he seems well intentioned does not mean he couldn’t be accidentally coercive nor does it mean he does not need to follow normal legal procedures.

I mean I think we’re probably going to disagree here, and that’s okay.

I have adopted family members who came through the system. However, you think it is appropriate for random police officers to just seize children at their own whim? That is so incredibly easily abused. He is free to sign up to adopt with the state himself rather than threatening a random woman he found. He should…

Exactly! In the usual evangelical Christian manner, all the focus was on the fetus while the living, breathing human being standing right in front of you can just hurry up and DIE already. She’s a filthy sinner, obviously and doesn’t deserve our help. WWJD? Probably slap the crap out of these hypocrites.

The appropriate thing to do would be to go through whichever government agency that area has for child protective services and place the child in temporary custody (potentially a relative) while the mother enters treatment and potentially one day has some type of contact or even custody of her child.

I absolutely disagree with you but for the sake of argument, did the cop try to contact the woman’s relatives? Why is HIS family necessarily the best option? Considering there are many families looking for babies to adopt, why did his family get to adopt this one? The story has many many holes. There is a lot that we…

Or maybe... Handmaid’s Tale-levels of child harvest from all the people who, due to a lack of a solid healthcare system, aren’t in the best position to take care of them. All it takes is a bunch of assholes like this couple to potentially coerce someone who is down-and-out into adoption in order to secure one of the 7…