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I am disappointed in every commenter here.

Wow! Where I come from, that's grounds for country justice.

Because: 1) You cray. What are you even talking about. That's maybe the most reductionist view of a reasonable discussion of sex work ever. 2) Not everyone who writes for Jezebel is the same person, nor are the commenters. 3) Jezebel is not a feminist site.

The Patriarchy made brownies for the last PTA meeting, and I tasted one in front of them, made a face, put it back down, and said "oh no, they're fine, just...not what I was expecting, dear."

[Insert neutral, non-controversial statement about Beyonce here]

Could it be that even some black feminists think that way or would that avoid the chance of bashing white feminists?

Burt on a Tuesday? Hurrah, more Burt!

Mia McKenzie had a very good take on all of this, especially the fraught relationship between white feminists and feminists of color: http://www.blackgirldangerous.org/2013/12/defend… While I agree that it's counterproductive to have a fight that starts and ends at is she/isn't she a feminist, I don't think it's

This is why there are issues with discussing feminism as it relates to one person's actions, specifically a pop icon with devoted fans. I like Beyonce therefor I will find ways to connect her message to feminism. I don't like Beyonce therefor I will find ways to discredit the folks who say she is feminist. Beyonce

And you were correct the first time. Jay Z distanced himself from R Kellly over the beef, not because of the accusations. I still reserve a shady side-eye whenever Jay's name comes up.

So... we should all stop talking about the issues raised in this discussion about black feminism and womanism, because the root of it is that we're all jealous of her success?

My mistake...then that makes your comment more true (Jay-Z is fucking problematic as hell)

Not gonna lie, I was pretty disappointed Jezebel didn't eviscerate Lady Gaga for featuring R Kelly on a track called "Do What You Want With My Body." URGH.

1. That wasn't hate, it was criticism of major music labels, not B.

This makes me sad because I like these people.

She looks fit and healthy, but am I the only one who thinks she actually looks sexier in the "chunky" bikini picture?

I disagree; I think "slut-shaming" is a useful concept, most especially for critiquing other feminist critiques. (I think accusing Rush Limbaugh of slut-shaming is mostly unhelpful. It's basically tautological, and gives him no reason to change.) But there is a very real problem of a large number of feminist critiques

I think the point of calling out "slut-shaming" in this context has never really been abut trying to shut down anyone who dares to have an opinion about the sexualization of women in our society, but to point out that the way we talk about it matters. Because words DO matter, and the way people like Rashida Jones' and