Yeah, I was just having a discussion with someone on here the other day who claimed that the RTD run was ‘tonally consistent’. I don’t get it at all, lol. “Lighthearted” Christmas special Voyage of the Damned kills off all of its supporting characters in the most gruesome way imaginable, just because it can.

Even Demons is chock full of flaws. I think any episode of Doctor Who that would improved by making it...not Doctor Who can’t really be considered a classic.

Yes.

Yeah, that sound byte that comes up every time Doctor Who news pops is such utter nonsense. Listen, Mummy on the Orient Express, Flatline, Dark Water/Death in Heaven, Last Christmas, The Magician’s Apprentice/The Witch’s Familiar, The Girl Who Died, The Zygon Invasion/The Zygon Inversion, Face the Raven/Heaven…

I know we disagree on Moffat, but Chibnall seems to lack a basic grasp of how the show even works. It’s baffling, considering I expected his run to be middling, and it’s been so much worse than that. I’ve never seen such lifeless characterization on a good show before.

“No first you were praising how “consistent” Capaldi’s era was yet now you’re saying it’s good how “varied” it was, two diametrically opposed positions. His character veered wildly between S8 and S9 from miserable got whose entire tag line was “am I a good person” to “oh I wear 3D glasses and have an electric…

James Gunn is the cure to superhero fatigue.

Absolutely. Life would be boring if we all agreed.

The creative team did have a massive shakeup between Seasons 3 and 4. (Not between Seasons 2 and 3, which is what the dudebros were complaining about). Reminds me of the one Community had between its second and third seasons. It was still a very good show in Seasons 3, 5, and 6, but was never quite the same.

I prefer S6 to 5 because 5 lost a bit of steam after Troy’s departure. 6 was very solid and ended fantastically. But 5 has some terrific, underrated gems (like the unofficial sequel to Mixology Certification).

To be fair though, I think Season 3 was where the downward trend started. Rickmancing the Stone and Vindicators 3 still don’t really do much for me even now. Not to mention really pushing Rick’s character to the edge where it wasn’t possible to sustain for 70 more episodes.

By episode 100 we’ll be longing for the days of Comedy Central Futurama.

Mortiplicity was classic. Sad that the Evangelion parody is mediocre as well.

Perhaps, but for whatever reason I liked it a lot more than this.

Not a fan of the other two you brought up at all, but M. Night Shaym-Aliens felt a lot more fresh and funny than the heist one or this one did. Perhaps it’s the leeway of a series just starting out.

Martha’s character arc is a bit of a mess. The way it ends in The End of Time just seals the deal.

S9 and 10 did see a shift in terms of his character, but I think it was justified within the narrative considering how much time elapses between S8 and 9 and the resolution of his internal conflict fueling his dickishness at the end of S8. They definitely leaned into his The Thick of It persona a little too hard at…

I don’t know. I think Listen, Kill the Moon, Dark Water, Face the Raven, Heaven Sent, Hell Bent, etc. are stunningly ambitious and thematically richer than anything done with the program since Eccleston’s season, and I only feel stronger about that after re-watching.

That opinion is widespread in the UK. I disagree completely, but that’s life.

I’m glad you brought up Flatline. That’s the kind of episode a show produces when it’s firing on all cylinders, landing the comedy, monster design, and character work. A great example of how a great Doctor Who showrunner can keep the wonder at the core of the premise while also exploring complex themes and character…