It’s true - driven both a LOT as rentals.  The Taurus had you sitting almost towards the middle of the car - tons of wasted space in that thing.  

Good friend did - sold it because it was boring, and I drove it several times. It’s slow, has mediocre handling, is generally underpowered for the weight (even with the upgraded engine), has limited creature comforts, and an economy interior. It’s a basic crossover, nothing more and nothing less. Credit to the AWD…

Driven them several times on the track - it is painfully hard to get in and out of, the seat pan is tight (if you’re small of stature, that might work for longer drives), and it’s somewhat cramped feeling. Plus, audio/etc are not... the strong point. Except the engine sound. That audio is perfect.

Love the 12C, but comfortable for long drives it is definitely NOT.  Those seats are really designed for doing absurdly fast things on a track or a weekend drive, not...  a long drive. 

Only issue I’ve heard is that they’re way more on the cruiser and way less on the sport than you’d expect, but I certainly haven’t driven one myself. 

No you. Also, the Crosstrek is a boring bland turd. Plenty of us making more than enough cash for fun AND retirement. 

Plan C:  People can have more than enough for retirement AND fun at the same time. 

Only the gladiator, sadly.  I miss my old Frontier, but ...  yeah, dying breed.  

Finally.  Dammit, this might get put on the list.  

Certainly is to me. It was neither small and nimble like the RSX, nor was it gifted with the HP and grunt of the 3.2 TL. It was neither fish nor fowl nor good red herring, and that Civic SI engine in that size of car is not notably exciting - it’s a parts bin special. I drove them twice, and never could figure out the…

$94,500.  No typo.  They were still making them - dealership (one of the biggest in the Denver area at the time) had a new one on the lot and another coming.  No one knew they were going to go crazy, and this is a market that had just come out of two major blizzards and nasty winters, so sports car sales were down…

Oof. This one hurts.

Not me. What I wanted was a Thruxton motor in the scrambler chassis. That twin did me good things - but was only available at the time in the thruxton and the true-cruiser variant.

Leverage. If my rate of return in the market > interest rate on car note, and liquid reserves are great enough to deal with emergencies (including paying off the car if necessary), then take the loan.  

I agreed with this until one of my friends got creamed by a semi... had a helmet cam on. .75 seconds was his reaction time - the semi blew a stop sign between two lines of brownstones and out onto a major 4 lane road at 45mph (in a 25). He lost both legs to that in the end, after 3 years of fighting to keep them.…

I’ll agree with this.  I bought my Street Triple R as a compromise between the 600cc 4s (not enough torque around town, and by the time you get into the powerband, you’re illegal in 3 states) and the the mega 1000cc fours (too much of everything, and now you’re illegal in the lower-48).  I didn’t feel like another…

The 4cyl work version is weak anywhere - chop 20% off the HP figure to start, and it’s just BAD.  Go up the mountains...  yeah.  Nope.  

OOF.  That...  yeah, good luck.  

Bluetooth.  USB.  Heck, I think I’ve tuned to the actual FM stations locally twice in my current daily - over almost 5 years.  Sirius if I want new music, spotify or apple or android otherwise.  

It’s 2022 - why are you listening to the radio?