Now imagine living close to it.  I have a ZL1 that is ~slower~ here than a stock SS would be in Florida.  It’s a wake up call.  

Oh? Denver loses ~22% of crank HP due to density altitude. It’s why we run dynos with an SAE correction of 1.2. I live above Denver. Also why piston airplanes make less power (unless turbocharged or supercharged, which does things moderately differently for them). I suggest looking it up - this is all over the web and…

Where I live, the I4 makes more power than the Coyote - altitude sucks, a LOT. By trying harder, I mean not being like GM and just chucking the same old pushrod/whatever V8s at everything. This isn’t a pickup towing things, it’s a mid-sized SUV.

I live at altitude. They’re not the same at power levels up here - the V8 is lower powered and thirstier. :p And unlike the V8, there’s reasonable and cost-effective upgrades with emissions compliance for the V6 - just a tune gets you plenty more power.  The V8 takes way more than that to get anything more, and at…

I’m glad it didn’t.  It’s 2020; N/A V8s are dead or dying for good reason.  Thank you Ford, for trying harder and being better.  I know it’s on my list now. 

Because what I need and what I want are two different things.  I could get by with a base Corolla (fit is too small; I’m a big boy, and I live at altitude) or Civic, but I don’t particularly want either of those.  

Sure, but I’m not going to go BUY one - because a car built for fun with a manual is better than one built for a purpose with a manual, unless you need to fill that purpose too.  I had a wrangler with a stick prior to the Miata - still wish I did, in fact.  

Sure, but I buy new-newish - can’t get that anymore.  

I might.  I do like the Hatch, vs the sedan - the sedan proportions with the 4 doors just look wrong, but it works better with the hatch.  

This one baffles me.  I hate the look of the 4 door, but have considered a coupe for my next toy around town, especially if driving levels stay as low as they have recently.  

I buy manuals, but I’m not buying mid-sized family sedans. :( That’s the problem - things that people WANT with a stick (see: Civic SI, WRX, GTI, etc) sell with sticks. Things that people don’t generally buy for fun (See: Camry, Accord, Malibu, etc) don’t sell with them. :(

You apparently need to actually answer your phone occasionally. Or delete some voicemails. A LOT of voicemails. Seriously, was Kristin reading you War and Peace via voicemail?

Yeah yeah yeah. The real trims. I don’t care about the outer banks :p

This.  I had a wrangler, had to give it up.  I want this, but I want the full option set too.  I appreciate the manual and the 2.3 being on all trims, but I’d really like sasquatch as well.  

And it also doesn’t have the moronic interior that the model 3/y have.  

Why would you want to pay off your house?  Unless you’re close to retirement, that tends to be an appreciating asset, and leveraging that properly will lead to growing wealth.  Same as taking a 0% loan and keeping cash invested, assuming you can cover emergencies and other things.  

Then the Bronco becomes a subcompact car, and they start selling the Fiesta in replacement for the F-450.  Americans only buy Kei cars, the Japanese go nuts for full size trucks made by Porsche, and the Europeans start doing 70's luxury barges with 200HP out of 7L.  

True across the board.  But it was cute.  

ROFL.  I mean he went WAY over the edge; like white-power nutso over the edge apparently.  I haven’t paid as much attention.  

Early versions were fun to drive too.  Overshadowed by the Fiesta ST really fast, but the RS+Turbo was a hoot for what it was.  I almost bought one once.