I agree, but that doesn’t mean that GM doesn’t think it can pull it off. They certainly look to have ~tried~ to improve the interior - and some of the Cadillac stuff shows they CAN if they try... so who’s to say that GM doesn’t think they can pull it off?

I don’t disagree, but it doesn’t mean that GM won’t try.  

Let’s be honest though - outside of the parts division, GM does ~not~ care about those people - they’re not buying new cars. Even Cruze/Sonic. They’re buying used and trying to keep them running for years.  The corporate world doesn’t care because they’re not a source of margin.  GM has realized people will drop 50k+…

Other than a gut that the base is going to go up more because it can, this is exactly what I’m thinking. Trucks and the Germans took a lot of the market they used to sell in to - even as aspirational cars, trucks are taking a LOT of market share even selling at 50k+

Because they’re aiming at a different market now.  That’s my gut feeling - they’re moving away from the affordable blue-collar sports car and into the white-collar sports-car world.  Since the cadillac cars in this range (CTS-V / CT6-V) have not been huge successes, they need a halo - and it’s going to be the…

Also possible.  

I’ve bought two cars near that price range in the last 6 years. Three if you include a lease on a SUV. 

Can totally believe it.  Made more sense for me when I lived in the city - now the nearest charger other than my house would be 48 miles away.  I ~might~ make it to the south office on a charge, but I’d be burning dinosaurs every day, and many days, I’d be burning dinosaurs a LOT of the day.  So, I stuck with…

Why? Why care about people who are shopping in the 40-50k range? They’re buying tarted up Equinioxes (Equini?) and Terrains and trucks.  Well, someone elses truck - they fucked that one up this time.  They don’t buy cars. You know who buys cars? People who want to buy 100k sports cars. Not many of them, mind you, but…

I was thinking of the GT500, but you have a point - wonder what ford makes on the low-end models.  

I’m still betting that in an attempt to move “upscale” and compete closer against the high-end, we’ll see this starting above 90, and over 100 within a year or two. If you’re going to justify the work into building a mid-engine chassis, you have to recoup the cost somehow - aiming at the “elite” pricing level is the…

Big, floaty, boring, underpowered (feeling), mediocre. I actually respect the shit out of the Volt - thought about getting one twice (once a bit after they came out, and when I did my most recent replacement - my driving habits would have been on gas most of hte time so I decided against it (daily commute minimum…

Serious answer from someone who not only looked at it, but who’s wife looked at it too:

Me too.  

Ah yes. The taxi that never shows up, except 45 minutes later than I needed it to, smells bad, is driven by someone who doesn’t know what progressive throttle inputs are, charges me 3x as much, and gets lost on the way to the airport (which has ONE ROAD THAT GOES THERE).

I miss colors like this.

Some day that’s going to be bad. I’m almost positive of it.

$5 he eventually ingests a bird into one of those turbos.

This.  We intentionally upgraded houses partially so we each had an office (small), but also our own ROOM to function in (hers doubles as a guest room, mine doubles as an emergency guest room and the home theater).  We spend most of our time together, but it’s nice having a room that you KNOW is yours and you don’t…

This is absolutely true, but I also have to rely on it daily, since the Miata ain’t gonna work that well in 8-12” of snow, and the ZL1 starts giggling if I look at it after November. Daddy gotta get to work and all.