That’s due to it being turbo more than the flat layout.

Drove 2.5hrs to look at a 1990 Buick Century we wanted to buy. The car wouldn’t idle on it’s own, the owner had cut the exhaust off at the manifold thinking it was a bad cat, it wouldn’t shift into overdrive, and the speedometer didn’t work.

So your butt-dyno told you nothing changed, glad to see the butt-dyno is still a better metric than actual testing.

The FAs are all equal length headers.

Given the equal length headers, they’ve already lost the burble. They now sound like every Honda 15yrs ago.

So does calling an electric car a “gasser”.

My engine light was lit up at a track day because I was running a de-cat pipe, and it didn’t affect anything at all.

Who said I didn’t qualify for welfare?

The kids do.

I hate SNG. The seats are very uncomfortable and I cannot haul long objects without using seating.

No work, housing paid for by the govt, healthcare paid by the govt, just get to do nothing all day and get paid for it.

Any vehicle goes into “safe” or “limp” mode when the MIL is lit, regardless of the cause. You may not notice a difference, but it is not tuning properly with the MIL lit, which can lead to serious issues down the road.

I honestly don’t know.

Except that CEL causes the vehicle to run in limp mode, which generally means excessively rich. Running rich leads to poor economy and can lead to premature engine failure from excess gas entering the oil.

About as many as most Odysseys.......

Still larger than a van should be:

“Denial Minivan”

I prefer the 2nd gen Caravan/Voyager’s removable seats. They’re easy to remove, can be reconfigured depending on room you need, and have room under them so you don’t have to lose seating to haul lumber and such.

Some of us have to work for a living. ;)

Someone say vans: