Too swoopy.

Van time:

The Odyssey had just as many trans issues as the early Caravan/Voyagers.

I agree with most of your sentiment, but I think the base model Caravan of the era is what modern minivans should be.

Vans. For when you need 8' of lumber, seating for 7, and security:

Those are Snowflakes, which I’m pretty sure never actually came on the vans.

You must live a sheltered life.

Prior to OC, my insurance actually covered things like ER, Urgent Care, major surgery, etc.

My healthcare was far more affordable and covered far more before OC.

The builder’s way of saying, “Welp, that didn’t turn out as planned, but hey, it kinda looks like a Gasser, let’s just say that’s what we were going for!”

These are both Nissans?

Except it’s electric...............

I call bullshit. If you have a shop like that, you have the tools to make things fit.

I was here first.

Cool build and all, but that thing needs some serious lowering.

We were finally forced out of our grandfathered plan this year. On our old plan 80% was covered, regardless. Now we are responsible for every penny until we hit $10k, while paying more for the OC plan we were forced into.

If you didn’t care you wouldn’t have wasted your time to comment.

Looks like you got a good deal, I would never buy any vehicle sight-unseen unless it was under $200.

Except they are loaded down with tech and features.

24,000 people got insurance because of Obamacare.