I think the badging needs to be black in the back and the same color as the grille on the front, like the Raptor. I think that would help immensely.

Serious question: why does everyone say this is a Renegade competitor? It’s on the same platform as the Escape which would put it in size with the Compass and Cherokee.

I believe it was 2017.

I find that unlikely. This is definitely geared towards American buyers. NYIAS would make much more sense.

Have you seen it on the new CX-30? It’s smaller than the CX-5 and yet seems to have more cladding.

it definitely seems to cheapen the look doesn’t it? Haven’t this in person, but if it’s the matte black plastic that every other car has it just doesn’t help the premium perception of German luxury. 

Agreed, but with regards the original post I was just stating that with a starting point of the FA24 pulling an additional 100+ HP shouldn’t be a huge problem.

The Explorer platform is not the same as the Ranger/Bronco. The Explorer is Unibody and the Ranger/Bronco is a body of frame. The Explorer platform does also have the Aviator though.

I think the 2.4t is currently very detuned. It has like 264 hp in the Ascent (which I was surprised by for a vehicle that size). Nearly every 2.0t on the market today is at least 250 hp, so an engine with nearly a half liter larger in theory should be capable of more than 264.

The new Explorer platform could be used for a sedan. Someone needs to convince Ford to make one though. 

As the owner of a FoST I would be convinced to downsize for this. Hell even if we got both the new FiST and FoST I think I would still go with the Fiesta.

That’s not really the fault of Ford though. It’s a limited edition of a car that starts at $26k, they give people other Mustang options.

Well that’s oversimplying it, only the Focus and Fiesta the disaster DCT.

I don’t think the 4 cylinder Supra will start at a lower price than the 228i, which starts at $35k. Either way I would rather have the 2 series.

I think it’s worth adding that while loans are getting longer the average age of a car on the road is higher than ever. In the US it’s like 11 years. If you commit to keeping it for well over a decade I don’t think 72 months is unreasonable with a decent interest rate.

The manual take rate for the C7 was about 50% in the earlier years. I think those that drive manual are more willing to be A) early buyers and B) wait for the next generation if they know the car is set to be replaced. I don’t think it’s fair to look at the final year of a generation as say that represents the total…

It amazes me the amount of tech manufacturers want to put into cars and yet I see tons of people who can’t be bothered to use Bluetooth in vehicles I’m positive have it as standard equipment. 

From a content perspective no, from user interface I would say yes. I don’t even update mine anymore because it hasn’t worked right in years. I get emails about people wanting to connect with me and when I sign in there is nothing there.

Really? Wonder why Toyota just didn’t design it to just cut off the drive-by-wire accelerator in that situation. Turning off the car automatically seems like a bad idea, you lose power steering, airbag deployment, etc.

My experience with X-plan is it is a starting point on price. Factory incentives/rebates still apply so it can be a very good deal all together.