But does Odo truly still exist, or is the hybrid of Odo and Kurzon a new person with a new identity?

There is a Voyager episode — Tuvix — that is pretty bland like most Voyager episodes, but tackles this philosophical idea head-on with a debate about the rights of a hybrid personality (created by a transporter accident) compared to the rights of the two individuals who were essentially killed to create him.

nah, the MOST important issue with the pah wraiths is that the name "pah wraiths" is terrible and ruins every serious line its in by making me (and probably the actors) squirm

@avclub-0c3e626d1a287cdc48c77515c8dcc243:disqus Odo happened to get found by a Bajoran scientist with identical hair to the genetic predisposition of his species from the other side of the galaxy?

I definitely knew that it was a fairly common trope… and if someone had put a gun to my head and asked me where it originated, and I'd thought *really* hard, I *might* have remembered and guessed The Thing… but yeah honestly it was never present in my mind while watching this or anything else with that kind of scene.

Ah, well, glad it's not weak, because I do still love it :) Still, must watch The Thing soon…

Ah, well, glad it's not weak, because I do still love it :) Still, must watch The Thing soon…

At least we can all agree that both are better than the Voyager theme music, which I like to call "the opposite of Carl Sagan", because it makes astronomical phenomena incredibly boring

At least we can all agree that both are better than the Voyager theme music, which I like to call "the opposite of Carl Sagan", because it makes astronomical phenomena incredibly boring

@avclub-0c3e626d1a287cdc48c77515c8dcc243:disqus that doesn't make any sense… Odo had *never met the founders his entire life*, and his appearance was his best attempt at looking like a humanoid, with hair modelled after his Bajoran keeper. Why would the founders have that exact shape, with that exact hair, as their…

@avclub-0c3e626d1a287cdc48c77515c8dcc243:disqus that doesn't make any sense… Odo had *never met the founders his entire life*, and his appearance was his best attempt at looking like a humanoid, with hair modelled after his Bajoran keeper. Why would the founders have that exact shape, with that exact hair, as their…

Agreed. Drives me nuts. At first it made sense as them trying to connect with Odo, plus it makes *some* sense in that way ongoing — the reality (stated at some point i think) is that the Founders care more about Odo than the entire alpha quadrant and any of the other things going on. But there are so many details that…

Agreed. Drives me nuts. At first it made sense as them trying to connect with Odo, plus it makes *some* sense in that way ongoing — the reality (stated at some point i think) is that the Founders care more about Odo than the entire alpha quadrant and any of the other things going on. But there are so many details that…

One of the things that makes both TNG & DS9 so awesome and so refreshing is that you the plots *aren't* exclusively driven by the characters doing obviously stupid things and failing to take basic precautions.

One of the things that makes both TNG & DS9 so awesome and so refreshing is that you the plots *aren't* exclusively driven by the characters doing obviously stupid things and failing to take basic precautions.

Okay, so it turns out most of what I thought was so well-constructed was just a weak version of a classic movie I for some reason haven't seen. This is why you sit in the big chair :)

Okay, so it turns out most of what I thought was so well-constructed was just a weak version of a classic movie I for some reason haven't seen. This is why you sit in the big chair :)

Also not to defend the many loose ends of the Federation economy but: we don't know much about the soil reclamators. Maybe they are massive building-sized machines that fix millions of acres of land and require a whole ship to transport each one. Maybe they have to be customized to the specific planet's native soil so…

Also not to defend the many loose ends of the Federation economy but: we don't know much about the soil reclamators. Maybe they are massive building-sized machines that fix millions of acres of land and require a whole ship to transport each one. Maybe they have to be customized to the specific planet's native soil so…

I think it's actually a two-way street — I think it's in a later episode (so VERY MINOR SPOILER, SORTA) but Quark mentions that there were lots of more profitable business avenues he could have pursued, but his "weakness" is that he's a people person and wanted run something like the bar.