I really hope you don’t practice what you preach, your attitude is deeply disturbing.

A freaked out, worn down woman giving up resisting is not consent. Hence the concept of enthusiastic consent. It’s so creepy that you care so much about this. If you’re not pressuring women into sex that they don’t want and aren’t comfortable with, you don’t have anything to worry about.

There isn’t a difference, enthusiastic consent is consent. A wearing down of resistance with your freaked out partner is not.

It’s not that hard to discern someone is uncomfortable, if there is the smallest doubt, you can say “is this ok?” And again as other people have said, stopping when someone has said no and then going full throttle again is not stopping, esp with kink shit that you need to know your partner is into.

The onus is on him to have consent, not on her to deny consent.

I haven’t but ok

That’s fine, but they shouldn’t tear other victims down, blame them and invalidate their traumatic experiences so that they can feel ok.

You were sexually assaulted, your pain is valid and none of it is your fault.

The onus isn’t on her to communicate clearly, which she tried to repeatedly. The onus is on him is not to pressure someone into sexual contact that they don’t want.

This completely ignores the power dynamic between men and women and that women are hurt all the time for simply saying no.

It’s just all her fault. It’s totally normal to just stick your fingers down someone else’s throat. To make someone gag with no, “is this kink thing I’m going to do ok?” I’m sure you’d be fine if someone did this to you in a romantic encounter and not at all shocked or grossed out or confused as to why they weren’t…

He kept shoving his fingers down her throat.

I don’t think he thought she was totally into it, I doubt he gave any meaningful thought to her and was just trying to fuck as quickly as possible.

The “coercive” part was also shoving his fingers down her throat. URGH.

Ah yes, sit down with the dude sexually assaulting you or who did and see if you get an apology. Then get told by people like you, why are you still talking to him? Why aren’t you leaving? Assault victims can’t do anything right because certain people will always blame them, no matter what happens.

Education in schools and adverts about enthusiastic consent. Outreach programmes teaching about enthusiastic consent. A continued public discourse with people refusing to give up on the notion of EC or GTFO.

I’m pretty sure you’re just a straight up rapist now, or a wannabe anyway if you’re an incel. You are so invested in your partner not enthusiastically consenting. It’s super creepy.

No, during the act. As in stopping the sexual act. Are you being wilfully idiotic about this?

It was worse than sexual harassment. All the forcing fingers down the throat, repeatedly putting her hand on his penis after pulling away. And coercion wearing someone down does not equal consent.

That would only work if she was trying to pressure him into doing stuff he was clearly unhappy about. Also systematic rape culture/violence against women by sexual partners, but nice try.