Not the same situation.

In person in the right color, the Supra looks a lot more exotic.

What does a stage 1 remap get you to on the Abarth?

…like the Supra?

Toyota had just as much input on the Supra as the GR86…

It’s 1000lbs heavier than my Abarth Spider and twice the price, but I’d honestly consider one if they offered it in manual. Really do love the way these look. Especially in that purple/light grey combo, my god that’s perfection.

The price difference (~20%!) is huge for the same performance specs as the Supra. And the Supra sounds better, is lighter, more rigid, more practical, and has a better ride/handling balance. Plus, in a sports car a nicer interior isn’t the focus like it is in a luxury barge. Even then, the Supra’s interior and build…

I’m thinking more “authentic” as well.

Meh, I’ll take the Supra 10/10 times. It’s cheaper, has a stick shift, comes with a free track day, the hatch makes it marginally more useful, and most importantly, it has that sexy center mounted tach.

Plus a $50,000 markup. Because that is what we do.

I thought 80-90% of Vette usage was sitting in a parking lot while the owner explains that this particular Vette is 1 of 25 Vettes that were green with black interiors that were made on a Tuesday during a rain storm, but the only one with the optional heads up display.

But man ICE muscle cars are fun to just fool around in. Just hearing a well modded 5.0 Mustang oof

Tuners will just get into jailbreaking. Buy a base Dodge EV and have your local tuner turn on all the options and power the hardware permits.

“Now, we don’t want to lock the cars and say you can’t modify them,” says Kuniskis. “We just want to lock them and say modify them through us so that we know that it’s done right.”

I have questions about the future of used cars. If and when the original owner sells the car, do they sell it with any improvements that they’ve added and paid for? How does this work? We all say here not to pay for someone else’s project and that aftermarket mods don’t add value but if it’s just programming, does…

Welcome to the future, friends! 

As evidence of this, the owner included in-car footage of himself at Virginia International Raceway turning in a 2 minute, 17 seconds lap. For context, Car and Driver lapped a McLaren Senna around VIR in 2019 in 2 minutes 34.9 seconds.

IMHO it’s not particularly impressive if you need special fuel to run it. Now if the car could generate that kind of power on pump gas? That’s something to write home about.

winner winner chicken dinner.

think you just proved his point. all those things are things tesla already had in the bag, so why not just buy a Model S?