Your proposed legislation could do the same thing though. “It’s person because legally the parents can take the remains for burial.” The whole damn world is a slippery slope if you want it to be.

Yes, on facebook. Baby Loss Support for Agnostic and Atheist Moms. It’s a good group.

Fuck off.

I don’t troll. And this is about more than just the certificate. The thing about the legality of it is it can affect a parent’s ability to take home remains. I had a friends who lost a baby at 18 weeks in hospital. She was not permitted to take her baby for burial because it wasn’t issued a death certificate. Two more…

Apparently you did not read any of the comments.

Thank you very much. It is a weird thing because of course I remember the day, but it’s just me. Nobody else thinks about him. Nobody else wonders what if he’d been okay. Nobody else pictures my family complete with my daughters and their little sibling. When you lose someone later, they are a person to everyone else.…

Yes, there is at 20 weeks. And this may surprise you - but people lose babies before that!

Making it myself would clearly not be the same at all. If they hospital offered that, great. But my hospital appeared to full of a pile of assholes. I’m not religious in any way. I do not see how this particular legislation will overturn abortion rights. Only a percentage of people suffering miscarriage will ask for a…

I’m going to get shit on and I don’t care. The Dems are fine with it and so am I. I know I’m never supposed to consider any fetus anything more than a clump of cells, but when it comes to MY fetus, it’s just different. It’s my baby. I would never impose babyhood on someone else’s clump of cells, but from the moment I…

THANK YOU.

I get all the suspicions, but I can’t stand the assumption that this isn’t something parents want.

I mean why issue a birth and death certificate for stillborns at all then? They aren’t ever going to be doing any business or having estates to settle. But post 20 weeks they still do it. Why do we have to stop the thing while it’s still good? Surely they’d have to go back and get approval to make it mandatory.

That’s you. I felt the same way after my first one. After my second, I would have welcomed a piece of paper as confirmation that my baby existed. And I can’t explain why. I know many others who feel the same though. That baby was with me for 12 weeks. :/

I actually know several families who have wanted a birth certificate for their pre-20 week baby, and all of them are pro-choice (I’m in a liberal atheist pregnancy loss group :P).

I’m not saying that I think all intentions are pure here, but I do know many families who would have benefited from this idea. If only it…

After 20 weeks you get birth and death certificates. That’s why. So if you lose a baby at 19 weeks, it’s basically considered medical waste. A week later and you have a person to bury. It’s weird really.

Not going to lie - I would have loved a birth certificate for my second loss. The arbitrary cutoff of 20 weeks is very difficult. And I find this very easy to reconcile with my pro-choiceness in that my child was wanted. I granted it babydom. :P

Giant, messy milkshakes make me angry.

I find most 100 year olds don’t look 100 years old, and that’s why they are able to live to 100 years old. Lol.

They are absolutely the cutest bunch of sisters I’ve ever seen. How wonderful that they’ve had so much time together! I’d love to be a little old lady with my siblings.

My maternal grandparents are the same. They look amazing at 84 and 85 years old. They are traveling to the UK this year so that my grandpa can have a joint 85th/95th birthday party with his sister. Pretty cool.

My paternal grandparents passed in their 60s though. So I kind of feel like I’m going one of two ways here.…

I may go out of my way to visit Austin when the family heads down south, just so I can give the Alamo Drafthouse my money.

This just seems sensible.