the one thing this documentary has done is provide yet another opportunity for internet commenters to be really proud of themselves for hating nirvana.

I mean. Can’t we all objectively agree the Ramones absolutely sucked at playing their instruments but produced some seriously different music that totally changed the game? I feel like you don’t have to be like OMG SO TALENTED to just have a really amazing and unique musical vision. If that makes sense.

One of the many reasons why that song Imagine just pisses me off.

This documentary made me terribly sad. And I have come around on Courtney. I was 14 when Kurt died and definitely got caught up in the ‘Courtney Killed Kurt’ craze. But looking on it as an adult it’s pretty clear that he had a hard childhood, an addictive personality, extremely strong emotions and feelings and was…

YES. I totally understand what you are saying. To a number of the guys Courtney was a prototype ‘manic pixie dream girl’ (but a very very dark one) that they simultaneously wanted and hated. And the female hate for Courtney was very simply, she’s not right for him but *I* am. *I* can help him/save him/fix him. I loved…

I have done a 180 on Love. I like her music, but I loved Nirvana, and still continue to do so. What changed my mind was seeing how troubled Kurt was LONG before she came around. You cannot change a person, you cannot save them, you cannot make them so something that was not already in their mind.

Thank you for this. I said something similiar downthread. It was obvious to me that she blames herself for a lot.

I liken this argument to one that one of my favorite hole-in-the-wall record store owners back in Columbus, OH, told me one time (Good Vibrations, RIP!): The Beatles didn’t just change music, they changed culture. I think Nirvana, like ‘em or not, were the catalyst for the same thing. Whether you’re a fan of…

But as more time passes since his death, the lionization of his persona becomes increasingly rote—so much like the pedestal all the old mostly-white, always male rock gods, another man to elevate into the canon and transform into a personification of saintliness.

Again, I haven't seen it, and I don't want to be defending him if it turns out he did do something like that. But the story was circulating before the film when I read about it, and she was not really MR and she did consent and he rejected her. He describes the experience in his journal- I read it when parts of his…

Kurt Cobain and Nirvana fundamentally changed the face of music today. You would be hard pressed to find any musician of note who disagreed with that. There wasn’t even a fucking hip hop group in the ‘90s that didn’t sample nirvana. They spoke to an entire generation and managed to make it feel like they were speaking…

I love Courtney Love! I definitely wouldn’t call any individual criticism or critic of her behavior sexist, but the amount of criticism she gets compared to male rock stars is totally sexist. No one expects their male rock idols to be all sweetness and light and humility and sanity and rationality and moderation. In…

in response to the comments that I’ve recieved: I guess we will never know the true story as we can’t hear from the young woman. but we do know the school district and her father got involved which leads me to believe that it was an act of sexual violence. I also want to say that I think we need to stop writing this…

I don’t know if I can properly explain what I’m thinking...

Bleach changed my life. I legit went from listening to NKOTB to Nirvana and Nine Inch Nails. Grunge was everything I felt inside put out into the open. Cobain was uniquely talented and I treasure the music still, but he was also a deeply troubled person. I agree that the posthumous piling on of accolades has…

I don't know that they did. Remember, this was back before the Internet, so it was hard to tell what "everyone" thinks. They were a big presence on MTV, and Love did some jerk things sometimes but so did Cobain and so did just about every rocker of the time. As a high school girl when Nirvana broke, I thought it was…

Yea it is sort of a Yoko Ono thing. They are both really flawed women who were married to really flawed dudes that died young. Thing is, it's like fans can read about all the flaws of their man hero and think it's OK because he was a poor tortured genius or something. But for the women? No, same flaws, far more…

I remember Kurt and Courtney together very well. Kurt was never going to be a fifty year old rock star- desperately clinging to the last vestiges of his fame. He was always going to be a wounded misunderstood boy genius that died unfortunately one way or another and he was always going to have a wife/other who fit…

I will never forget, one day I was unloading my car for a party with my best friend and my then boyfriend. The BFF and I were discussing our great love of Hole, when the boyfriend, all pissy, asks how on earth we can like Hole when Courtney Love heads said band. I asked him what he had against Courtney Love, and he…

While I’m certain there is sexist hatred for Courtney, I also know the woman creates much of it for herself with her behavior toward other humans. Having had my business attacked by her personally for days on Twitter years ago, I can attest to just how crazy and MEAN she is. She bought some things from me, forgot she…