Forest—-> trees. Even most of Amazon’s CSR jobs aren’t WFH, and if that woman left the job, minimum wage is still what it is, where she lives.

Lol.

You’re describing a fringe case as though it were the status quo, and standing on your soapbox. Sorry dude, but that’s not a real argument. Work from home jobs are 5% of the total workforce. That’s not a significant number.

I drive an 86 air cooled 911. I love it. It’s manual, exciting, it feels like it wants to rev ALL THE TIME. I don’t get back massages. I take drives.

I’m a small business owner.

A great, concise explanation.

Lol. That’s precisely not what I’m arguing for. Again, you’re exaggerating like someone desperately looking for an argument where one doesn’t exist.

You’re inventing a fringe case - specifically so you can knock it down. That’s a straw man.

Feel free to school me on how median works, it’s been a while. But I don’t remember how datasets handle volume. In a market like NYC and San Fran, the datasets might look like... 2,000 - 3,000 - 3,000 - 3,000 - 5,000 - 20,000. Is the median found based on a 2k, 3k, 5k, 20k dataset? so 3-5? or based on the entire…

That’s sort of the point. If burger flippers were making 15 - which is 32K a year, give or take, you wouldn’t be able to offer college educated kids a 30k starting salary anymore.

You didn’t read what I wrote. I said it should be based on where the employer chose to put their office.

Actually, when minimum wage was first established, most households had had a single earner, and it wasn’t about any 9-5 dream, it was just based on the idea that the 40 hour work week should give you enough money to live.

I mean, I was just spitballing a different way to think about it. A one-size minimum wage is silly considering the vast differences in cost of living. I’m not an economist and I’m 10000% open to better, more thoughtful solutions.

I used to work for Verizon in the early oughts. This company is bloated and tired, and there isn’t nearly enough competition in the market. The way we treat communications infrastructure in this country is bonkers. Instead of pooling money together to create a single robust infrastructure, where entrants have low…

Did you even read my comment? Normally in a household, both wage earners don’t earn the same amount. But I did adjust for two salaries, try reading.

Only if income and wealth inequality means that only rich people can own property. 

Correct. But the reverse is also true. A company shouldn’t be able to post up in a premier neighborhood where they make more money because they have a good location and pay shit wages that mean the people can’t live reasonably close to where they work. Rent is higher on 5th avenue. Why shouldn’t wages be?

Fine - but the idea of a one-size fits all minimum wage is wild. The idea behind minimum wage is that anyone should be able to work a 40 hour week and at the very least be able to afford a home and feed their family, giving them time to be good parents and improve themselves if they want. 

A lot of people - especially in the lower wage category are getting pushed out of their neighborhoods and they are having to take longer and longer commutes even through very poor public transportation. Hard to “bootstrap” when you’re not only working multiple jobs, but also taking 1.5 to 2 hours worth of bus rides…

Census.