So we just accept anyone who says they are poor and need to live here now? Because there are a lot of people who are poor in the world. I am not sure importing them is the solution...

Lol. So then what is your position? Just a total lack of empathy for no reason at all?

You’re under the mistaken impression that people fleeing a dangerous situation in need of help are somehow a danger and a substantial drain on our limited resources, despite short term studies and long term studies that effectively say the opposite.

Correct. Back to the point I made on the other thread. 40% of Americans can’t come up with $400 in an emergency. What do you think the number is for $750? You’re not the typical story. Yet these phones are being purchased mass market. Just saying. A TON of people are borrowing from Peter to pay Paul. They’re…

It’s not the 20 bucks a month. It’s the 20 bucks a month for the cell phone. Another 50 for the laptop. 400 for the endless car lease. 10 bucks a month here and there for the endless subscription services. Spotify. Netflix. Pandora. Amazon prime. People are blissfully signing away their lives for the price of four…

I said this in the original “affordable” post. But $750 isn’t affordable in any universe. Playing the payment game - “only 10 dollars a month” is fine, but even if you take into account time value of money, these phones are expensive as all get-out.

I definitely think he’s thought far enough ahead that he wants to corner the battery market. He realizes that this will be the real money-maker. But I don’t think he wants Tesla to be a battery company, I think he just wants it to be a successful company for what he sees as the future. The cars are part of that…

Yeah, I kind of went from one sentence to the next, it should have been two different paragraphs. I was implying that the HK subsidies are much higher, and it’s a totally different car market. Hence, apples to oranges.

how long are you going to be Bob Lutz or some other cranky old granddad who says “we never did it like that in my day so it’s obviously going to fail” even when it is succeeding?

I replied to this dude’s earlier comment as well. It’s already been ten years. GM knew what was coming, they aren’t even close. It may not take another ten for them to launch something good, but it will be pretty close, and by that time they will definitely not be eating anyone’s lunch.

News flash homie, it’s already been ten years. GM barely has an EV.

Not clear on your point. That’s why the HK to US is an apples to oranges comparison.

I think you’re thinking the same thing as the major OEMs and they’ve been wrong over and over again.

Yeah but that’s not what the OEMs are missing. It’s been a while since I read up on the battery tech for Tesla, but actually, if anything I think they went the opposite way. There’s some pretty neat tech there but most of it is focused on keeping it safe, and simple. I think they are still using cells that basically…

I agree that Tesla has already changed the landscape. I think the other major OEMs are going to have trouble overcoming the battery issue, honestly. Tesla started optimizing to streamline their battery pipeline 10 years before they did, and even as prices go down, Tesla is always going to be a step ahead of them from…

I don’t see this as a major roadblock. Someone on here mentioned Hong Kong, but I think it’s an apples to oranges comparison. A tesla, even the 3, is still very much a luxury product in the US, and the people buying it can afford the $46K. Meanwhile, battery prices will continue to drop and their profit margins will…

Came here to say this. At this point they need to separate actual mechanical issues from computer issues and infotainment glitches.

I wouldn’t knock a CX-5 DD. I recommended one to my dad a few years back and finally got to drive it a few months ago. Despite the small displacement, the engine is really peppy and the steering is great. I think it’s a great car. 

Nice! I got you beat. I had a 465 in 2005 because of Denny’s Chicken Strips. I didn’t really get credit again until 2008, and even then it wasn’t good. Now I have an 800 and card companies beg me to spend on their card so they can collect those sweet sweet parasitic transaction fees.

Dumb take - it’s virtually impossible to live debt-free and get an education in this country. There are plenty of normal day-to-day circumstances that are best handled with a little debt.