kylepearson
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Government nanny state-ism and environmentalism killed the muscle car movement. Also rarely mentioned is the switch from notoriously cheat-friendly "SAE Gross" power ratings to "SAE Net" power ratings. A 245hp IROC was just as fast as any earlier smallblock. In fact the late 80s was when modern cars first started to

Not that these are better looking than any of the others posted, but they werent mentioend as far as I can tell, and I think they're a classic design that still looks good today even though they're from an era that is poorly regarded for very good reasons.

I submit to you 1985-1987 IROC-Z wheels. At the time I

I lol'd quite heavily, thank you. I dont think most people know what you're talking about unfortunately, but it's very true. The bow ties and SS logos are constantly migrating around....

The other interesting thing, is these cars were just as fast as most of the 60's muscle cars. Technology in the late 80s had come a long way since the nadir of the late 80's. Most of those old muscle cars could barely break into 13's, and IROCs could do that pretty easy with minor upgrades.

These cars have a lot of cheap performance potential. I love them, and frankly in good shape they're very good looking cars. The mullet stigma will take a long time to wear off, but I love mine, it's been a blast at the local autocrosses.

I may be way off base, but it always seemed to me that 6 cylinders and 10 cyilnder engines always sound dull and craptastic. The Viper couldnt sound more bland, and the GTR sounds like every other super boring V6 car out there. The Toyobaru engine sounds awfully monotonous, though and it's a 4 cylinder.... But I guess

Theres always something weirder.... but I think this Firebird "Kammback" is on up there. They made one out of a 78 Trans Am too. I dont really see the point since the way these cars are made, the area behind the rear seats is occupied by rear axle and fuel tank. There's no seats or even any usable luggage space back

The era from 1965-1973 was special, but to narrow it down, probably 66-71.

Just because it has pushrods in it doesnt mean it's "decades old technology". Overhead cams have been around since the turn of the century. It's like saying the Enzo's V12 is decades old technology because it using a crankshaft and pistons.

Not a good picture, but Tuned Port Injection does look fantastic. Its in the animated intro for the Two Guys Garage TV show even. It's a shame it's such a terrible performer. An engine designed to make peak torque at 3000 RPMs belongs in a truck, not a sports car.

Grand Nationals have been worth good money for a while now... compare to any similar vintage IROC-Z in similar condition and a Grand National is worth twice as much if not more.

Why do people keep saying things like this? The only thing the modern small block chevy has in common with your grandpappy's smallblock chevy is bore spacing. These are completely new engines designed from the ground up 15 years ago, and have since been heavily developed far beyond even that.

The tires labeled "Trofeos" are actually just the old pattern Corsa P Zeros. THey may still be cut slicks, but the tread pattern is VERY close to what its supposed to be.

Jalopnik got the picture labels backwards. The tires you're comparing the Trofeo's to are actually the P zero corsas.

Pagani said these were special for hteir cars. The tread patterns are VERY close, I think it's plausible. Now if there are shenanigans afoot, like a slick cut up to look like a street tire, that's one thing. But everyone is jumping on the "the tread is wrong for Tire X, CHEATERS!" bandwagon. That kind of deception

The tires you guys are calling hand cut slicks are actually P Zero Corsas. Look them up. They got the pictures or the labels backwards in the article, thats why tread patterns dont match, but the pictured tires are Corsas an Trofeos.

Look up Pirelli Trofeo tires and Pirelli P Zero Corsas. They look almost exactly like whats in the article. They got the labels backwards in the article, thats why the tire labels dont match.

Guys, enough with the lynch mob. Look up Pirelli Corsa tires... and then look up Trofeo tires. The guys who did the article got the labelling backwards. The tires labeled as Pirelli Trofeos in the article look exactly like the Corsa tires. The tires labeled Corsas look VERY close to Trofeos. They just got the pictures

Quite a lot of them did, but those jobs paid well so people did it. Especially during the depression era. 

Way to be a piece of crap towards someone who is trying to help.