But when we have a network that has such a "don't give a fuck" attitude about female nudity and sexualized violence, do you think they give a damn about censorship? They had a man's head smashed in last episode - DO YOU REALLY THINK THEY GIVE A DAMN ABOUT CENSORSHIP.

You asked "What do you see in it?" I answered.

Did you not read my comment. I STOPPED WATCHING. And yet I can still talk about it. It's called discourse.

Um, no. No. That is about the most ridiculous excuse I've ever heard, ESPECIALLY because the majority of the main female characters have been shown naked and most of them AREN'T adult film actresses. And who they cast for the roles does NOT dictate who gets naked ... the writing and direction do. And the writing tends…

So we're not allowed to discuss when entertainment does something problematic? Hell, I DID stop watching the show, but I'm still going to discuss WHY I stopped because it does matter to bring up these criticisms.

I have honestly not seen Oz, but my question is: was that scene meant to be sexy? Or was it straight up meant to be horrifying? One of the big points of this article isn't that rape happens in the show, but that's it's framed with the same focus on the women's bodies as the "happy sexy sex scenes" are in the show. So…

Yeah, apparently a TON of people misunderstood that quote. I think it's sad that we would actually assume the showrunners would just add that in for this season. That's where we've gotten with this.

But the babies aren't made to be sexy, sexy babies in the same shot.

The point is that we can love a show for some amazing characters but still point out when it's becoming more and more overtly misogynistic in how it frames the things that happen. Half the criticisms in this piece are specifically about how the show is shot so that women's bodies are made to look sexy even during the…

I mention this in another comment, but I saw the actress this past weekend at a con and during the GoT panel she actually said that she asked if they could shoot her death scene where she was actually dying on screen but they said no. She even tried having her head slump so you could at least see the moment where Ros…

Yeah, me too. And the fact that they because they don't see it as rape, they wrote the rest of the season (as far as we can tell at this point) for Cersei to not have a reaction to it. Oh yeah, that was just a thing that happened. No lasting consequences for the victim, right?

The Dany scene in the first episode.

And often art encourages things in the real world ... when Game of Thrones shows injustice as clearly wrong and not alluring, it makes its audience thing about our world's version of that same injustice. The points made in this article is that when rape is framed as titillation of women's bodies or as hidden desire…

Have you ever noticed how 1. women are STILL way more often naked than men and 2. how penises are still hidden beyond all reason thanks to editing. Watch the two Robb Stark love scenes and tell me that they didn't cut away from his penis on purpose.

then you aren't looking very hard

Does it feel to anyone else like the fact that they actively hide men's bodies on the show even when everyone in a scene is naked makes what doesn't seem so bad in the books as far as constant sexiness seem way over the top in the show?

Also: criticizing things you don't like isn't allowed because reasons! No I don't care if you give several examples of your point! Reasons!

Speaking of Ros, I saw Esmé Bianco at a panel this weekend and someone asked her if she was able to keep anything from set when she left the show. She said they let her keep the kimono from her scene by the water. She said it was really one of the only pieces of clothing she got to wear in the whole show. And the…

Question: is "trans women" the general spelling? I've seen it as both but I haven't encountered someone who insists on the space before. I want to do my best to spell people's gender identities correctly.

This is why it's infuriating when people point to the "angry feminists." Of COURSE we are angry. We're dealing with complete bullshit.