Musk needs a castration. At roughly neck level.

That was my thought too. HD trucks have to be a separate category. Or their sales aren’t broken out or something. 

The pros use this one:

Discounts are getting back to “normal”. Stuff that is sitting around is discounted, stuff that is hot is not. Same as it ever was. You can get a deal on a Gladiator, you are NOT getting one on a Sienna.

Pretty much all “hot rods” are super janky. My nieghbor builds them in a shed in his backyard. Currently has two. One has a roof so low and seats so tall that I would have to cut my head off to sit in it. The other one has the *gas tank* AS the rear bumper. Seriously. But he really doesns’t drive them, he just has his…

DaimlerChrysler, obviously.

Exactly. There were all sorts of silly luxo-Defenders made.

I find few things more useless than massive amounts of power in an off-roader. My Land Rover has 185hp, not once ever have I wished it had more. More power just gets you in in deeper trouble faster.

And I think both of them are completely pointless and profoundly stupid.

And I’d MUCH rather have a car that feels fast than one that IS fast. And sound is a big part of that. Much safer for your license and insurance costs. <shrug>

Who knows why they do anything around here any more? Neither is a sedan.

We will have to agree to disagree. Revenue is meaningless if more money is going out the door than is coming in, whether total revenue is $1000 or $1,000,000,000. Yes, businesses can have positive cash flow while losing gobs of money, in theory, for a while. In practice that is a slow slide to bankruptcy in most cases…

I assume you mean NON-diesel buses.

It’s a typo, there is no story. But got to pump the outrage machine for those clicks and eyeballs.

Sure - but at one point Porsche alone nearly took over VW.

There are 2dr sedans and 4dr coupes. <shrug>

Well, you can take anything offroad once..

Not just gray, but shiny primer gray.

If it was Ryan Gosling in swim shorts, I would buy the car and pay the subscription fee.

The problem is it costs 80% as much to make.