I agree with most of what you are saying - but that graph is not as convincing as it looks at first glance. Almost all of the countries on there are low and middle-income countries. It's not until the bottom quarter of the graph that you start hitting rich countries. People with less money always spend a higher…

To be clear: you feel as though many, many (many many many) small farms run by a myriad of farmers using more nutritious (read energy intensive) means to produce meat is a more efficient means of meat production than large-scale psychopathologically run CAFOs and by "It's the ONLY fix," you mean that people cannot…

If all you have is local, ethically sourced meat, then meat will be a thing that only rich people can afford. It might not impact you very much, and you might be able to "get used to the idea of spending a larger portion of your income on food," but it will seriously impact a lot of people hovering around the poverty…

I haven't even begun to argue. Just presenting you a mosaic of incontrovertible facts. You live in the US - the single most gluttonous nation in the world. That means that you're already a disproportionate drain on global resources (me, too, by the way). In America, greenhouse emissions from livestock are more than…

Why does it need to be on a large scale? That's a bizarre thought. Most people who try to buy ethically-raised meat are also trying to support local, small-scale farmers. If more people did this, small-scale farming would be more economically viable, and there would be more small-scale farmers raising meat ethically.

Why on earth would I want it mass-produced? You're right, feedlots will never be ethical—it's cruel for the animals and bad for the planet pretty much no matter how it's done. But it's entirely possible to raise animals ethically on a smaller scale, on farms that practice holistic farming rather than monoculture. It's…

I totally get it. I know those types of folks. I was that person (my other excuse is I was a teenager). I don't believe for a moment that only vegetarians think about the ethics of our food. I get a little slap happy in these types of conversations, and that's where my protein comment came from (among other…

There are many, many vegetarians out there who manage not to be sanctimonious jerks. OP is not holier-than-thou because they are vegetarian, they're holier-than-thou because they're being preachy.

I have nothing against vegetarians—I actually don't eat meat that often. I have a problem with vegetarians who feel the need to preach and condescend, as though people who aren't vegetarians must not think seriously about the ethics of our food.

It's where vegetarians get our protein!

On a bed of course! I can't tell if they're on the floor or what...ouch.

There's a reason for that...

Yeah this is for when doggy style gets so intense, you both are about to fall over, and you just hunker down and ride it out from here. Perfectly fine.

I call that the "special cuddle." spooning can lead to forking!!

I've never met a woman who does not like this one. Must be dating in the right circles.

I've got some backyard eggs and free-range/organic/antibiotic-free venison in the freezer that say there are other options. I challenge you to a smug-off. J/k. But turning everything in to this binary of full vegan or battery chicken eaters makes people throw their hands up in the air and say "Fuck it. I'm not…

We go to this one once I've had my orgasm(s) and am played out, as it does nothing for me, and everything for him. That said, +1, would do again and again.

I call this one "Sunday morning lazy sex." It's the best.

It's the best one. You never see it in porn for that reason.

It's for the common good, really.