So we were both talking about Guidance radar.... so why did you say I need to learn the difference if we were talking about the same things? It makes no sense. I am not sure there is even an argument here at all any more. I’ll say this one last time so we’re clear:

That was my thought as well. I’ve never used the password-protected bootloader feature on grub. Usually I just control physical access. After all, if someone has physical access, they can just use a boot disk.

If you say “the radar was turned off” without specifying whether it is the acquisition, search, guidance, height-finding, etc, then the assumption is you mean ALL radar is shut down. After all, we were talking about keeping anti-radiation missiles from tracking, and ANY radar on will allow that radar to be followed…

Just read the document I linked you. It will go a long way to repairing your misconceptions. You seem to have this idea that all jamming is barrage jamming, and that you can know the location of a plane with the radar off.

All these forces have very different jobs. You should study the force structure a little bit before making dubious statements.

There is a lot more to the Marines than just beach landings. In the Army, or in the Marines, you’d still need a force with the same capabilities, so it doesn’t really matter if they are separate or built-in. You still have to pay for it.

“Based on the Interview The F-117 RWR were Failed to Pick the SAM Illumination. And The SAM comander only turn on the Guidence radar for very brief period (16 second).”

I don’t really know what that has to do with anything. Israel is not at war with Iran. With an S-300 system in Iran, Israel’s operations could be threatened unless they neutralized the S-300 first. There’s a huge difference between IADS suppression/destruction missions and having aircraft surprised by a supposedly…

I am aware of the system capabilities. However, put yourself in the pilot seat for a moment. A radar comes on, locks you and tracks you, then fires a missile. Do you fly in a straight line? Hell no. And as long as the system has the track dropped, it cannot possibly anticipate where you will be. Now if you see its…

Man, if you can’t understand that a command-guidance link doesn’t help when the thing sending the command-guidance cannot see the plane, then I don’t know what to tell you.

No... you are assuming that the Radar somehow still knows where the target is while it is turned off. Sure, it can still talk to the missile, but if it doesn’t know the location of the target, it can’t tell the missile where to steer.... got it?

They can declare war on states. ISIS is not a state. We should probably legislate something to account for these “gray areas” where we are fighting non-state actors, but current SOP for that is for the President to just handle it himself.

And yet ISIS’ ultimate goals are pretty stupid. Terrorist organizations and insurgencies survive by being decentralized. ISIS wants to establish an actual state, which are the types of enemies we are VERY good at fighting.

While the fact Turkey didn’t get approval is worrisome, you are really trying to say “non-hostile plane”? It was armed. It was very likely bombing Turkmen on the Syrian side of the border. And it was about the 10th time or so.

I am aware of all that, though you seem to be a bit fuzzy on the details. I stand by my statement that ***some*** systems, the missile will self-destruct if it loses guidance.

“Thi First goal in any air war is Suppresion of Enemy Defence.”

The HARM had very limited ability to still engage a target after it turned off its radar. The AARGM (HARM’s replacement) can fly to the last known location, and has active sensors it can use.

Had not heard that, but good to know. It was a pretty tenacious devil of a missile... AARGM is going to replace HARM though. It has much better capabilities to engage after the radar turns off.

900km > 600km. And tracking does not = destroying. The B-52s could fly out of Diego Garcia easily, or anywhere in the continental US. They have pretty significant jamming capabilities, enough to further reduce the effective S-400 radar range.

That’s not the point. They wouldn’t fire decoy missiles. Each wave of airborne decoy could significantly deplete the supply of missiles guided by the S-400 system. Decoy S-400 systems would really only fool satellites visually identifying.