Neutral: The world is getting old and fat - crossovers aren’t going anywhere.

Yup. The electric motor in my Ioniq gets a lot of people thinking it has ‘performance’ because of the immediate torque. Leave your foot in it and it is no longer impressive.

My Ioniq came pretty well equipped and has low HP numbers. Its also designed to just maximize MPG.

As my engineer Pops would always say: “Engineering is the fine art of compromise.”

You can't hear the pedestrian warning sounds with the windows up. 

You can't hear them with the windows up. 

I’ll get back to you with some math after work.

34 ft is nearly the length of 3 Sparks. That could be significant and I doubt it is a 1% scenario. Even reducing the closing speed before the collision is helpful and directly correlated to braking distance (non-linear braking excluded at these speeds).

When performance being critiqued is the stuff that avoids crashes, it likely is a good indicator of safety. Braking distances and skidpad Gs are probably good indicators of handling characteristics for crash avoidance characteristics between like vehicles.

Let say I judged my distance incorrectly - football field example from above - care to take on the math for the minimum distance I would have had to notice the deer in order to avoid it with a swerve vs braking at 75 mph? You choose the reaction times for whatever you are comfortable calculating.

Oy. Good luck. The point isn’t my specific case. The point is that the math changes when you stop idealizing the situation.

I am so excited for a future when out biggest complaints around the noises made by cars will be that they are too quiet or the tires are too loud.

Revisit grip (GG circles) and reassess what Ahildy9815 mathed out. It doesn’t work.

I’d like to reply more and probably can after work. You seem to have overlooked the grip limit. Max braking and max lateral cannot happen simultaneously.

Responding to your deer math for ArrestMeRed (Is it just me or can it be difficult to identify a thread within a thread in Kinja?)

I asked my wife what is her favorite part of her new Highlander. Her choice? The center console because it is GIANT. There was no pause or question in her mind. 

Exactly. A good salesperson will have test driven the competition in addition to their own fleet. And a good dealership would pay them to do it.

I have what I would call a slower car - a Hyundai Ioniq HEV. 0-60 in 8.9 seconds isn’t fast, but I haven’t really found I needed any more in my area. I have a power meter in the car (its a hybrid so the point is to encourage efficient driving), and I have yet to pin the meter in every day use. I just haven’t found a…

I agree. In the student FSD competitions taking place in colleges (Formula Student Germany just happened last week), they all are required to installed a remote kill switch operated by an official.

Exactly. My car technically does 0-60 in like 8.9 seconds but it also has an electric motor providing 125 lbft of instant torque and has DCT. I would bet its holeshot across an intersection is faster than many of the cars out on the road.