... Which is why you just build a railroad with those savings. 

I think everyone should be encouraged to stop consuming things which are going to end our existence on Earth. If you want to use more than your share, pay for it. 

Hehe, California has a problem for sure. I’ve got plenty of family down there (I live in Seattle) so I know the issues with all of the fees and taxation.

It looks like you’ve found a chart for all emissions, no just transportation emissions. When weighted with the proportion of emission vs proportion of global warming potential, NOx alone has about an equal effect as CO2 from tailpipe emissions.

I read a bunch of Lawfare blog posts and I can see the arguments both ways for and against the appli action of the Supremacy clause.

Is there a basic summary of the arguments for and against the waiver? States rights vs federal rights etc? 

You’re reading old information (1998). There are more modern 3 stage catalytic converters (vs the 2 stage which was around 20 years ago when that article was written) and engine management tools which have been developed to keep the exhaust gases at the ideal reaction temperatures to minimize N2O and CO2 levels.

CO2 is just one of the GHGs made in an combustion engine. NxOs are also made. N2O is ~250 times more potent in its global warming potential than CO2. So, combusting those within the catalytic converter into N2 and CO2 is actually better for the environment than leaving the NxOs - even if it means more CO2.

If that happens I predict California creating a multi-dollar gas tax and then subsidizing people a flat amount in their taxes according to how many miles that they’ve driven. The credit essentially rewards you for buying a car that beats the fuel efficiency standard and penalizes you for buying a car that doesn’t -…

Two things:

I didn’t find that to be true with the economy cars I was researching last year. I basically found that every economy car built within the last 5 years was essentially on a linear depreciation to 150,000 miles or so. Maybe you knock $1,000 off the starting depreciation price and raise the floor to $2,000 or so, but…

Length vs width my dude. Short car with a utility trailer against the wall in front of it is smaller than a full size truck which you say can fit in the garage and just not have its doors open.

Ooo, Hyundai just need to chop the top of their sprinter van and turn that into a truck. The load capacity of those vans can be crazy high!

Good. Kyundai have been doing this for 3 years now with the Niro and Ioniq. I’m glad to see others following suit.

The engine in the PHEV is smaller though. Look at the distance it extends past the front wheel compared to the standard ICE car.

Now that is a great point. I know they get all sorts of annoying treatment when they are getting their trucks fixed - I would only assume that the same sort of thing might happen when they were shopping for a commuter car. You would think that they might garner some respect driving 10s of thousands of miles a year…

I dunno - its just an old skool off-roady requirement that I thought went well with the sarcastic view of some people’s ideas of what they find necessary in a soccer-mom vehicle.

We live in Seattle... All of the trucks in the lots are either Fords or Rams...

We bought a Tesla specifically so my wife never has to go to a gas station, again.

The Ioniq has a SPORT mode which changes the shift points, speeds up the throttle pedal mapping, reduces the electric assist in the steering, and leaves the ICE engine on longer while also being more willing to use the charge in the battery.