Counterpoint: Voting only works when you vote.

When the house is burning down you don’t worry about the crack in the foundation. You put the fire out and then figure out the rest. The fight for a better democratic candidate in 2016 was lost the day HRC got the nom. From that point forward the reality wasn’t going to to change. You can wonder should it be until p…

I’m not complicit in anything.  I voted in the general election for the only candidate who could have beaten Trump.  My conscience is clear.

If those Stein voters had voted for Clinton in WI, MI, and PA she would have carried hose states and won the election. 1% of the electorate is actually a lot when you think about it.

Absolutely not. Let the libertarians split the right on the vote. Jill Stein can run if she wants, but any liberal who votes for that anti vax crackpot or any other third party candidate shares just as much blame for Kavanaugh, Gorsich and Trump as a Trump voter.

Again, no one is saying that the party isn’t to blame either, but they weren’t the ones in the voting booth. Those working class white voters who bailed on Clinton and voted stein or didn’t vote are just as responsible for Trump as Trump voters, and they need to understand that in 2020.

THen you should look more closely at this thread and any number of others. And for the millionth time no one is saying this also is t on HRC, but she wasn’t the one in the voting booth in Wi, IL, Mi, and Pa who voted for an anti bad crackpot because HIlary wasn’t liberal enough.

No shit.  If all the idiots who voted for Stein in Wi, Mi, and PA had voted for Clinton she would have won the electoral college.

You obviously don’t see. The goalpost was always not having Trump be POTUS and nominating judges, and if you didn’t vote for HRC you helped him do it.

If HRC won neither Gorsich nor Kavanaugh would be on the court. If the senate decided to block all of her noms that would make the court 4-3. Assuming Kennedy didn’t retire 4-4.  In what fantasyland is that a worse alternative than we have now?

There are plenty of “liberals” on this site that didn’t vote for HRC in the general election, and all of those arrogant fools deserve to have things liked this shoved in their face by the 65 million who did until they grow up and realize how moronic voting third party in a presidential election is.

Congratulations to all of those “liberals” who just couldn’t bring themselves to vote for HRC. This is what happens when you throw your vote in the trash.

Right, but even if it’s all of them only 85% of the time is mandatory.

Yeah I feel like that can be a double edged sword some times especially when it comes to drug charges, but I’m fine with it here.

In Illinois aggravated battery charges that are class x or class 1 felony charges must be served consecutively.

Oops...yeah.  Consecutive.

You actually think they could have prevented Judge Kegstand from being confirmed? I don’t think you understand how little power the Democrats have.

According to this they must be consecutive because its a class x felony.

Under Illinois law it is mandatory for the court to impose consecutive sentences in the following circumstances:One of the offenses for which the defendant was convicted was first degree murder or a Class X or Class 1 felony and the defendant inflicted severe bodily injury;

Aside from the 2nd degree murder charge he’s looking at 6-30 years for each of the aggravated battery charges, and that 85% of that time must be served.  If my math is right he’s looking at around at least 81 years.