Tesla owners are welcome to click any EULA they like. They’re not the ones I’m concerned for.

So if I understand you correctly, Tesla could collect all the data it needs by having Autopilot in shadow mode. There’s no reason to actually have Autopilot enabled.

Hey now, watch what you say about Tesla around here. The diehards have drank the Kool-Aid and don’t accept negativity towards their beloved Tesla. According to many people it is perfectly OK for Tesla to be testing a completely unproven piece of automotive technology on the same roads us and our families use.

Yeah, I don’t get it. Are you supposed to hover your hands over the wheel and grab it insanely quick when something goes wrong? Seems like it would be much more relaxing to just drive the car.

I understand that Tesla needs to collect a lot of data from real-world conditions before their “Autopilot” will be safe enough.

“Just wait for AP3.0. THEN we’ll manage to drive at a relaxing pace down a dry, well painted, empty roadway. You’ll see!”

Because the 65+ crowd is so good at using new technology? You really think Aunt Edna, who still can’t figure out e-mail, is going to be able to use a menu-driven touch screen with her cataracts, or that voice “recognition” is going to understand her? You’re overestimating both people and technology.

New technology always changes the employment landscape. This is an unavoidable fact. But rather than trying to hold by technology in the name of keeping easily replaced jobs in place, we need to be looking at new education and training to get them into other fields.

Why would anyone buy the Honda over the similarly priced Bolt with nearly triple the range?

Missed opportunity to put he American flag on the shark fin.

They usually become obsolete because they can’t connect anymore. Some of the first connected cars are having this issue now. They used to connect through earlier cellular signals (1G/2G) but nothing can communicate with them on that level anymore. So they either need to retrofit to a 3G or newer signal which they have…

No. No. No. I’m old enough to know that my car will (likely) last longer than several generations of consumer hardware and many generations of software. Heck, my driver is a 2006, which predates the iPhone. It was state of the art for its day (Handsfree Bluetooth / DVD / Nav / Voice Control) and I use NONE of that…

You touched on what’s more important than anything the OEM does: Making it possible to rip out whatever half-assed, built and developed by the lowest bidder, infotainment the manufacturer decided to put in the car. A development decision they probably made months, years, before the car even hit the market and…

I also want to know which asshole made it so that they’re all touch screens now. Looking at and using a touch screen (invariably a really low quality one I need to press extremely hard, a bit to the right of the cursor) while driving is not great. Dunno what was so bad about buttons I can find automatically without…

Fuck. No.

None of the things you mentioned were useful to me in any way, with the possible exception of a maintenance log. If it’s very complex, or tied into the other systems of the car, I’ll see it as a reason to not buy the car, rather than an incentive.

Not at all, all I really care about is direct linkage to the tires from the steering wheels & a throttle & braking system that isn’t “by wire.” An electrical failure on any vehicle with these by wire systems could be grave or fatal, as an example I had a power failure on my 1986 Caprice Classic, I was able to steer it…

To answer your lead question, no. Marketers, if you’re paying attention, I’m a millenial who can afford things now, and there are a few things I want out of a new car: