I would think the dealerships aren’t doing that well either though, because the volumes aren’t there. One of the reasons to keep the price higher is to offset the lower volumes. Of course, they can only do that when demand outpaces supply.

I knew someone would chime in stating this, but I bet you, maybe more than most, knew exactly what I was saying.  

The style and symmetry is good... but if you want a real automotive challenge, find one out on the road today where the inner tail lights are not faded!  Now that’s a rare find.

I’m sure someone can chime in that knows better than I do, but this just looks like a refresh, and mostly cosmetic at that, not a new platform/generation.  The interior has already been mentioned how close it is to the previous design.

Neutral: The intrigue from me on an electric F-150 is whether this will be an exciting product (and bring in new customers) or will it be more of a workhorse, or an appliance if you will.  (This is assuming it is good. If it sucks, neither of these matter).  But my question is because if it’s just cool/exciting, I…

Oh sure, the: “God forbid this new car looks like one of the best designs we’ve had in 20 years” excuse. Instead, let’s make it look just like a smaller version and then tack on a beaver face at the last minute.

To be fair, I have no problem with a manufacturer wanting some more differentiation in the product lines...…

It’s huge, but it also houses front sensors. I prefer that to the plastic panels (see either side of the logo on the front of the brand new TLX)

You could be right.  Or even, Nissan can’t figure it’s crap out at all and ends up as nothing more than rebadged Renaults in the US and other markets Renault isn’t today. (And Infiniti is long gone)

1st gear: Maybe this isn’t the end of the world? I mean, obviously from our point of view (enthusiasts), Infinitis won’t be as exciting, but I haven’t looked at one in years anyway. Lexus and even more so Acura re-use a number of their lower brand platforms and seem to do pretty well with it. Maybe it’ll be the end of…

Good to know. I was only speaking to the ones I knew for certain.

Volume knob is on the console next to the touch pad.  Don’t know why these gear selectors are so strange.. even when you get used to the placement of buttons, they simply don’t work as well (in my opinion) as the old way.

the 2019-2020 has a volume knob.

I have a 2019 A-spec and I love the blue. Was probably the thing that took it over the top for me to actually buy it in fact.

The arrangement of the vents is what is keeping this off the top of your list?

I think the outgoing car looks great... enough that I bought one! The biggest flaw with the outgoing TLX is that I wouldn’t really call it a sport sedan, even with the V6 and A-spec package. That worked fine for me, since I knew what I was buying, but some might want the go to match the looks.

Loved my Typhoon... but had to part with it recently as I simply never drove it. It was quite a bit of work, but did keep it’s value while I had it, (went up a little actually, of course not as much as I put into it but it’s refreshing to have a vehicle appreciate!)

In that case, good luck with your search Steve!

Not what the person asked, but why not rent a car for a month or two?  (Tom mentions six months, but the post makes it sounds like this is really just for a month or two). 

I really like this car, rare to find the stick, and emotionally want to give it a NP.  It really is too expensive though. So, pretty much what everyone else has said... carry on.

What I’m taking from this... 5 different shades of yellow is pretty impressive.