My dad bought my stepmom one of these new in 2005, and it’s got a few things that need to be fixed. A replacement amplifier for the Mark Levinson stereo is $$$ even used, and you have no music or sound without it. The 100k service s also not cheap. Besides a few age-related niggles, it’s an incredible car.

I adore this car, ever since it was debuted in Frankfurt. It’s very easy to explain to people if you think of it as strictly a technical exercise -a “can it be done?” type of thing.

Liberals and conservatives can both make shit movies, I don’t see a problem. Free market system!

I’m awaiting for the release of the full Taycan lineup. Dollars to donuts says the Tesla boardroom is rushing yet another Model S facelift to slow the loss of customers.

Once you factor in the fact that Porsche has a strong dealer network, better build quality and reliability, and the ability for your car to be fixed in weeks (not months), the cost delta is decreased substantially. I can’t wait for Porsche to release the full lineup.

I’m waiting to see the pricing and stats on the base models. Trust me, Tesla’s board is probably trying to figure out how to do a quick facelift on the Model S to maintain relevance once the whole Taycan lineup is out.

*Neat

Throw in a 911 SC motor, give it a homebrew turbo, and surprise the shit out of everyone.

That's pretty subjective reasoning, pal. 

The 500e was better than the Abarth, IMO 

I wasn't a fan (500e excepted) but I'm sad to see it go. Variety is the spice of life, especially with Italian essence. 

The 500e was the best one of the bunch, and an incredible used buy. 

Sometimes an engine is so smooth you won't know you're at redline until it bounces off the rev limiter. 

They really need to learn how to properly put a car together. 

Innovative =/= fugly and makes no sense

I really like the Avantime. I’d love to own one.

No need to pour your entire fancy drink out Kristen, because not all is lost.

I don’t think that would be an NP or a CP...maybe just a P.

Since we’re here at sport sedans for 25k...