True, I suppose.
True, I suppose.
That’s a fine point. I think the same can be said to Lily then — it would be good if she heard people say “Lily, if you just wanted to have sex with sex workers to satisfy your sexual desires and not because you were in a dark place, that’s perfectly fine too and we wouldn’t judge you.” It’s so rare that anyone says…
Exactly. And what that guy wrote is not even accurate about sex work. Most sex worker clients are normal people and are as morally disgusted at hiring involuntary labor as anyone else. It’s not hard to tell if someone is doing something voluntarily — it really just involves talking to them. If you want an analogy to…
Preach -- thank you.
Exactly. This is what I’ve been trying to say but you were much more eloquent.
Yeah it was good she said she was not ashamed. It would be even better if she said “it had nothing to do with being lonely, rather I chose to fulfill my sexual desires with consenting adults in a way that was most certain to satisfy me, and that was with professional sex workers.” But like you said, baby steps.
I don’t think that’s accurate. Most sex worker clients are normal people and are as morally disgusted at hiring involuntary labor as anyone else. It’s not hard to tell if someone is doing something voluntarily — it really just involves talking to them. If you want an analogy to think about it, a lot of watches for…
People pursue sex for a variety of reasons — either pleasure or self-esteem related. I think Tracy’s point is when we hear people say “I was in a dark place when I saw a sex worker” it’s fair to wonder if that’s true or if they’re just too fearful to admit that they were pursuing their sexual pleasure. If you say you w…
I think it’s ok to acknowledge the truth that society shames people who hire sex workers, and sometimes all of us tell white lies to protect ourselves. Here’s an analogy: if you catch your friend having gay sex and he says “I was in a dark place and it was just this one time,” it’s ok for you to ask him if maybe he’s…
Sure, but it’s also true that people lie a lot when the get caught seeing escorts. They sometimes say things that will get them sympathy instead of what’s true. Saying “I was in a dark place” is more sympathetic than saying “I like hiring sex workers and there’s nothing wrong with that,” even if the latter is more…
Made this point above, but I think the point is we’re right to be skeptical about whether Lily is truly telling her own personal story or if she’s saying the kind of thing that will keep fans from vilifying her. Is it true, or is it calculated to minimize damage to her career? Because I suspect lots of non-woke people…
I think that’s the question. Is this really how she feels, or is she just saying what she thinks will be the more socially acceptable way to spin it? What she said is meant to garner sympathy for herself — she was in a dark place, that’s why she did it. Let’s be a tad cynical though. What if she said “I’m a woman with…
*blush* Thank you :)
You’re a delightful person.
You’re so bitter. Did someone hurt you sweetie?
You’re exactly right. Fear of sex workers comes from a number of different toxic attitudes, that’s what makes it hard to fight. There’s the good old misogyny of disapproving of women who make financial decisions tied to sex, starting with guys who complain about picking up the check on a first date, to guys who…
Hatred for sex workers usually stems from sexual dysfunction or personal disappointment over an unsatisfying sex life.
Wow you really hate sex workers. How does someone become so filled with hatred for a group of women? Were you attacked by a gang of sex workers as a child?
70 years ago: “Dream all you want, but interracial marriage will never be looked at with respect.”