I don’t need two cars that rev to the moon.

I’m just hoping this one sends 9th gen Si (2012-15) prices crashing so I can get in on the last NA Civic Si for a song.

I’m just repeating what I read to be the popular opinion of them at the time of release.

Nice Si sedan, and same here! Except I first started with an evil egg EP3 2003 Civic Si. Pictured below are the two siblings. I guess I’ve only experienced driving the torque-upgraded Si’s and never the Jekyll-and-Hyde VTEC KICKED IN YO character of the 6th and 8th gen Si’s.

I’m such a noob that I didn’t even know that top loading oil filters were a thing. I’ll have to keep this in mind the next time I go car shopping lol. Also I noticed there’s a lot of optimism in this thread, so I offer some pessimism to help balance things out.

I suppose I could’ve phrased and articulated my point better, I was meaning to say that adding AWD to a Civic for example is adding more complexity to an otherwise relatively mechanically simple vehicle. Sorry, my 2wd bias is showing. No doubt about the excellence that is SH-AWD though, I’ve only heard good things…

I would be very interested to learn more about this subject matter too. I recently sat in an EX-L hatchback to compare it against my ‘14 Si sedan, and I honestly felt that I liked the materials in my current vehicle better. I’m a big fan of the dual tier dash I have, though understandably that’s a polarizing design…

I can do without the spoiler. I’ve seen a 10gen sedan with a decklid spoiler once and I thought even that looked ridiculous, partly due to how the taillamps extend across the decklid, reducing the amount of area the spoiler can be applied to. This one kind of solves the problem by having some overhang on either side…

What about the 8th and 9th gen Si? They have limited-slip differentials too.

What kind of AWD? One engaged all the time or more like how Honda has done it on the AWD CR-V and Element, where it only engages the rear when slippage occurs? I would bet it’ll the latter, but I would vote for the former. Hell, when SH-AWD trickles down to Honda vehicles might be interesting, but that adds too much…

I had to Google what aft means, thanks for teaching me a new word!

Well that would make me happy. Bought a 2014 Si sedan 2 years ago, have been suffering from buyer’s remorse ever since from two things: the color (settling for black is not worth it if you’re supposedly getting a keeper car!) and the general (perceived) reputation of the 9th gen Si’s (mostly reading 8th gen comments…

If we’re talking about the front fascia (that’s what it’s called right?), I’d very much rather take this gloss black one which is also used on the hatchback over the chrome one on the regular Civics.