Progress will always happen regardless of whether the public wants it or not. And how is his opinion “cliche?” To a degree, its based on actual experience (admittedly not of the R34 GTR but of other cars and their forebears in which the newer cars are numb and uncommunicative).

How does the Z look ANYTHING like an R35??? I could MAYBE see someone mistaking the G35/37 for the current GTR but nothing else 

I cannot disagree with your statement that you cannot afford 500 hp nor do you need it. However, why would you not want it, in an ideal world where you were a millionaire? 

whats your position on gun control then? 

So what was Steve Jobs then? 

charlatan???

but it no longer comes in manual

most Harley riders I see are blue collar types - no idea where this idea of them being lawyers and dentists came about

so do cars though - and i’m a motorcyclist and a driver but not a cyclist

are you a cyclist too? 

You realize 100% of F1 drivers and motoGP riders are cyclists as well right? 

Why do you even care about electric motorcycles anyway? They are anodyne as fuck. Tax meat eaters and not petrol enthusiasts! 

Most bikes are VERY quiet. I recently test-rode a Harley and was shocked at how quiet it was. Its the assholes with loud pipes that THEN go wide open throttle that ruin everyone’s day

It depends HOW loud. I have no problem with even unsilenced bikes if they genntttly tickle the throttle. Its the WOT guys that ruin everyone’s day. I have a legally loud exhaust on my Subaru STI and past about 11 pm I make sure to short-shift so as not to bother anyone. Why Harley and Jap sportbike fucktards can’t…

What’s “London, Ontario?” ;) 

and there are exhausts for Civics that likely sound ace - the CAR is not the issue, its the type of exhaust that Civic owners tend to use (which I’ve also seen on many particularly Japanese cars btw, even new GTRs) 

Is your car racing in WRC/WTCC/F1? Then it doesn’t bloody matter how fast it goes mate - most serious car and bike people (people who regularly do trackdays, or race) I know put exhausts on their vehicle primarily for sound, the few hp it releases is an afterthought (provided the exhaust is under the dB limit for said…

Now that Model S P100Ds with Ludicrous and Taycan “Turbo S” exist, couldn’t one say that about ANY car (“whole bunch of noise...”)

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btw I’m not trying to bait you or paint you as irrational - if you indeed fear govt tyranny (and we have good reason to), then owning military grade weaponry is the only logical conclusion