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I don’t think I’ve ever been a Chrysler apologist, but the high frontal overlap test was introduced in 2012, well after this platform was developed and a lot of engineering is required to do well in it. Normally, I think it’s a ridiculous test and I don’t want to waste money on the engineering it takes to do well in

Amen. The article was written by a minivan apologist. It is a van, the sole existence of which is due to the amount of crap modern kids have. Just accept the fact that you, as a parent, aren’t (and don’t have to be) cool. Then the minivan becomes the perfect accessory/appliance/utility device.

Yeah, the only Pacifica with a removable second row is the hybrid.

I will say that these days, kids have to be in special car seats/boosters until they’re about 35 so the ability to use stow-n-go is somewhat limited.

I love that the driver’s airbag went sideways far enough to allow the driver to smack their face on the wheel and dashboard.  Perfectly useless.

The whole “minivans are uncool” thing is ridiculous on it’s face. You ceased being a cool person when you had kids, buying a tarted up wagon with plastic wheel arches isn’t going to fool anyone. Just get the damn minivan, it’s the best tool for the job.

They’re not that old if you think about it. They only just recently stopped making them. My Brother’s wife bought a 2016 model for around $15k.

They also had the first touchscreen controls EVER in a production car. in 1986. 86!

My point: Most, but not all, of these risks were disasters. I am not sure GM can be blamed for being risk-averse.

I chose “writers” over “journalists” because the latter’s standards are too high for nearly all outlets these days. 

In hindsight, it would appear the better truck designers were tasked with the new Hummer while the D-team soldiered out the ugliest Silverado in history.

“documentary”

Also, the 4 top selling SUVs in the US are the... RAV4, CRV, Rogue and Equinox.

Absolutely. Perfect point? My now 9 year old Chevy Volt. Even now hardly anyone other than Honda offers anything like it. The 2nd Gen Volt is still the best of its kind. And yet they stopped making them.

And yet you seemed to fit very comfortably in a 2-D pane of glass with a couple other people, Zod. Get over it.

I would argue that GM absolutely takes risks but they have historically murdered their own products before they can properly develop. GM developed a viable, promising electric car years before its competitors.

Yeah, if only the GM designers had gone “Johnny 99" on the fucking GM bean-counters they’d have put out some pretty nice cars these last few decades. They’d probably have made more money too! This monomaniacal focus on the next quarter’s profits is the death of American businesses, cf. Boeing.

GM has a history of designing cool interesting vehicles and then murdering them.  Great concepts, that by the time the committee has had their way they are garbage.

GM has taken a bunch of risks. Their problem is when the going gets tough, they fold and cancel. Look at the Fiero. Once they updated it into a decent car, they canceled it. Look at the Solstice. My guess is that the mid-engined vette won’t last too many years like those two other cars because it’s too impractical

The C8 and (teased) Hummer are game changers in their segment.  (The Hummer will need to be out near the Rivian, but still)

For example, Audrey Hepburn was 5'6" 88 lbs when she was 16. She had health problems her entire life from trying to live on tulip bulbs as a teenager. She did get to 5'7" (which was tall for a woman of that era), but she never weighed more than 110 lbs because her body was unable to properly absorb food because of the